Bitwise operators. Differences from javascript and PHP.

[skorobogatov]

I can't understand a little thing in bitwise operations.
In PHP and Javascript
4653896912>>13 = -212992

In Python and Ruby
4653896912>>13 = 568102

In Python and Ruby - it's ok. I understand.
But i need to get in Python same value as in PHP and Javascript.
How can i do this?

[Fredrik Lundh]

sk**********@gmail.com wrote:

I can't understand a little thing in bitwise operations.

In PHP and Javascript
4653896912>>13 = -212992

In Python and Ruby
4653896912>>13 = 568102

In Python and Ruby - it's ok. I understand.
But i need to get in Python same value as in PHP and Javascript.

hint:

>>4653896912 sys.maxint

True

not sure what PHP is doing with that expression, really.

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[John Machin]

[e-mail] wrote:

I can't understand a little thing in bitwise operations.
In PHP and Javascript
4653896912>>13 = -212992

In Python and Ruby
4653896912>>13 = 568102

In Python and Ruby - it's ok. I understand.
But i need to get in Python same value as in PHP and Javascript.
How can i do this?

So that someone who knows next-to-nothing about those 2 languages can
help you, what is x >n defined to do in PHP and Javascript?

If you can answer that question, what part of the Python implementation
of the PHP/Javascript definition are you having trouble with?

If you can't answer it ... is the problem caused by the fact that
4653896912 is, at 9 hex digits, a bit large for a 32-bit integer, those
2 languages don't have longer integers [my guess],
*and*, to quote something I found about PHP while googling,

http://theopensourcery.com/phplogic.htm

"In effect the bitwise operations [words "can be" omitted, I presume]
safely applied to integer variables - their effect on booleans,
float/double or string variables can be predicted but are not really
useful" ???

Cheers,
John

[Fredrik Lundh]

John Machin wrote:

http://theopensourcery.com/phplogic.htm

"In effect the bitwise operations [words "can be" omitted, I presume]

"can only be", more likely.

safely applied to integer variables - their effect on booleans,
float/double or string variables can be predicted but are not really
useful" ???

sounds like we're in

>>v = float(4653896912)
from string import pack, unpack
o = unpack("i", pack("d", v)[:4])[0]
(-o>>(13-3))|-2<<(32-13-1)

-212992

territory.

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[John Machin]

On Nov 17, 9:38 pm, Fredrik Lundh <[e-mail]:

John Machin wrote:

http://theopensourcery.com/phplogic.htm

"In effect the bitwise operations [words "can be" omitted, I presume]"can only be", more likely.

Yes, probably.

>

safely applied to integer variables - their effect on booleans,
float/double or string variables can be predicted but are not really
useful" ???sounds like we're in

>>v = float(4653896912)
>>from string import pack, unpack

from struct, more likely?

>>o = unpack("i", pack("d", v)[:4])[0]
>>(-o>>(13-3))|-2<<(32-13-1)

-212992

territory.

Sounds like you could be correct. However it's possible that you have
aided and abetted the OP to perpetrate a nonsense :-)

Cheers,
John