can someone explain why ..

[Schüle Daniel]

I don't understand what is the difference between commented lines
1 and 2

with 1 uncommented and 2 commented it works as expected
with 1 commented and 2 uncommented the picture doesn't appear

here is my code

#!/usr/bin/env python

from Tkinter import *
from Tkconstants import *

root = None

class Main:
def __init__(self):
global root
root = Tk(className = "Zeitrechner")
root.config(borderwidth = 5, relief = GROOVE)
root.geometry("0x0+100+50")

#self.im = image = PhotoImage(file = "./flower1.gif") #1
image = PhotoImage(file = "./flower1.gif") #2
frame1 = Frame(master = root, borderwidth = 3, relief = SUNKEN)
imageLabel = Label(master = frame1, image = image)

root.minsize(width = image.width(), height = image.height())
root.maxsize(width = 2*image.width(), height = image.height())

imageLabel.pack()
frame1.pack(side = LEFT)

def mainloop(self):
root.mainloop()

main = Main()
main.mainloop()

[Farshid Lashkari]

Schüle Daniel wrote:

I don't understand what is the difference between commented lines
1 and 2

with 1 uncommented and 2 commented it works as expected
with 1 commented and 2 uncommented the picture doesn't appear

I'm not familiar with Tkinter, but it seems as thought with 2, the
"image" variable is garbage collected after the constructor of Main is
called. With 1, you save a reference to the image, so it does not get
garbage collected.

-Farshid

[Schüle Daniel]

Farshid Lashkari schrieb:

Schüle Daniel wrote:

I don't understand what is the difference between commented lines
1 and 2

with 1 uncommented and 2 commented it works as expected
with 1 commented and 2 uncommented the picture doesn't appear

I'm not familiar with Tkinter, but it seems as thought with 2, the
"image" variable is garbage collected after the constructor of Main is
called. With 1, you save a reference to the image, so it does not get
garbage collected.

thx for quick reply :)

image is local variable of imageLabel
I would expect that in case imageLabel lives, it should
hold alife objects bound to its local variables

I am just curious *why* reference to image is not hold by imageLabel
which on his part is hold by frame1 .. which is hold by global root

Regards, Daniel

[Farshid Lashkari]

Schüle Daniel wrote:

thx for quick reply :)

image is local variable of imageLabel
I would expect that in case imageLabel lives, it should
hold alife objects bound to its local variables

I am just curious *why* reference to image is not hold by imageLabel
which on his part is hold by frame1 .. which is hold by global root

These are the only lines of code that reference "imageLabel":

imageLabel = Label(master = frame1, image = image)
imageLabel.pack()
Unless the constructor of Label adds a reference of itself to frame1,
imageLabel will also become garbage collected at the end of the
constructor. Are you sure this is the case?

-Farshid

[Schüle Daniel]

[..]

These are the only lines of code that reference "imageLabel":

imageLabel = Label(master = frame1, image = image)
imageLabel.pack()
Unless the constructor of Label adds a reference of itself to frame1,
imageLabel will also become garbage collected at the end of the
constructor. Are you sure this is the case?

yes, now i see it
even can frame1 be dead after __init__
it binds itself too root with

frame1 = Frame(master = root)
frame1.pack(side = LEFT)

frame1.pack may append frame1 to root's list of all
widgets, we cannot see it, but it also may not do it

Thx

[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-04-25, Farshid Lashkari <la********@SPAMworldviz.com> wrote:

Schüle Daniel wrote:

I don't understand what is the difference between commented lines
1 and 2

with 1 uncommented and 2 commented it works as expected
with 1 commented and 2 uncommented the picture doesn't appear

I'm not familiar with Tkinter, but it seems as thought with 2, the
"image" variable is garbage collected after the constructor of Main is
called. With 1, you save a reference to the image, so it does not get
garbage collected.

Yes. That's exactly correct. It's sort of a FAQ. See the
highlighted note at the bottom of

http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/bitmapimage.htm

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[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-04-25, Schüle Daniel <uv**@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:

I'm not familiar with Tkinter, but it seems as thought with 2,
the "image" variable is garbage collected after the
constructor of Main is called. With 1, you save a reference to
the image, so it does not get garbage collected.

Correct.
image is local variable of imageLabel
Actually it's a parameter to the constructor that was called to
create the "imageLabel" object.
I would expect that in case imageLabel lives, it should hold
alife objects bound to its local variables
It would. Therefore the "image" object apparently isn't bound
to a local variable in the object imageLabel.
I am just curious *why* reference to image is not hold by
imageLabel which on his part is hold by frame1...

Good question. Untold millions of programmers have tripped
over that bug. Well, would you believe untold dozens? I know
I did. It's a common enough problem that it's given special
mention in a couple books on Tkinter.

My _guess_ is that this is one of the misfeatures resulting
from the way Tkinter is implimented: it's not a real binding of
Python to the tk library. It's a Python wrapper around a TCL
interpreter which is bound to the tk library (or something like
that). This results in some counter-intuitive (non-pythonic)
behaviors like the one you discovered with bitmap images and
labels.

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