Vector math library

[Martin Vilcans]

Hi, I'm new to this mailing list and fairly new to Python as well. I'm
working on a prototype for a 3D game using OpenGL, and take this
opportunity to learn Python better.

I'm looking for a good library for vector math. I need to do vector
addition, cross products, dot products etc. and probably in the future
I'll need matrix math as well.

So far I've used the Scientific library, which is very nice, but
unfortunately it crashes when I use the Rotation class under OSX (which
is my current development environment). I've seen mailing list posts
that suggests that this crash is because of some problem with 64 bit CPUs.

I guess I can find a workaround for this problem, but first I want to
check if there's a better library for vector math. When I googled for
vector libraries, I found people claiming that the Numeric library can
be used for vector math. But skimming the Numeric documentation, I
didn't find a cross product function for instance, but it may just that
I don't understand how to use it.

I also found SciPy, but it doesn't seem to have any vector math in it.
In fact, I'm a bit confused about the libraries SciPy, Scientific,
Numeric and NumericArray and the relations between them.

Any suggestions on what library I should use?

Best regards,

Martin Vilcans
http://www.librador.com

[Bas]

I am not a regular user of the libraries that you mention, but I played
around with some of them because I need a replacement for Matlab.

Numeric, NumArray and SciPy should be more or less compatible. All the
functions you mention should be in there, or otherwise should be
trivial to implement. Have a look at the functions cross(), dot(),
inner(), outer(). Addition is just a+b.

As far as I know Numeric was the original vector lib. NumArray was
written as a successor but ended up as a fork due to some speed
concerns. Scipy is the latest and tries to unite the previous two by
implementing the best of both worlds. For future work you should stick
to SciPy. Right now it is probably somewhere in a beta stage, but
expect a final version in half a year or so. Hopefully it ends up being
THE vector lib for python to avoid confusing beginners like you.

Cheers,
Bas

[jelle]

martin,

pyformex has a vector module as well.
its not very pythonic, but it could help you out creating a version of
your own.
worth checking out

[Scott David Daniels]

Martin Vilcans wrote:

Hi, I'm new to this mailing list and fairly new to Python as well. I'm
working on a prototype for a 3D game using OpenGL, and take this
opportunity to learn Python better.

I'm looking for a good library for vector math. I need to do vector
addition, cross products, dot products etc. and probably in the future
I'll need matrix math as well.

Take a quick look at VPython. Should be great for breadboarding your
display and calculations.
--
-Scott David Daniels
sc***********@acm.org

[mtallen]

And then more!

I started out using cgtypes from the cgkit. Lots of other graphics
goodies in there also:

http://cgkit.sourceforge.net/doc/cgtypes.html

In the end I ended up rolling my own to better understand the whole
thing.

[Erik Max Francis]

Martin Vilcans wrote:

Hi, I'm new to this mailing list and fairly new to Python as well. I'm
working on a prototype for a 3D game using OpenGL, and take this
opportunity to learn Python better.

I'm looking for a good library for vector math. I need to do vector
addition, cross products, dot products etc. and probably in the future
I'll need matrix math as well.

ZOE has an la a module that helps with linear algebra computations
including (three-dimensional) vectors and matrices:

http://www.alcyone.com/software/zoe/

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