closing stdin, stdout and stderr

[Martijn Brouwer]

I am writing a unix daemon in python, so I want to close stdin, stdout
and stderr.
My first attempt was to the standard file descriptors using their
close() methods. After closing stdout, I could not print anymore, so
this seemed to work. However, later I noticed that they were not really
closed. When I close them using os.close(), it did work.
What is the difference between these two methods and what is the reason
behind it? It took me a day to find out why I could not log out after
starting the daemon.

Martijn

[Robin Becker]

Martijn Brouwer wrote:

I am writing a unix daemon in python, so I want to close stdin, stdout
and stderr.
My first attempt was to the standard file descriptors using their
close() methods. After closing stdout, I could not print anymore, so
this seemed to work. However, later I noticed that they were not really
closed. When I close them using os.close(), it did work.
What is the difference between these two methods and what is the reason
behind it? It took me a day to find out why I could not log out after
starting the daemon.

Martijn

I've had excellent results with variants of the cookbook entry at

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Coo.../Recipe/278731

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Robin Becker

[Robin Becker]

Robin Becker wrote:

Martijn Brouwer wrote:

I am writing a unix daemon in python, so I want to close stdin, stdout
and stderr.
My first attempt was to the standard file descriptors using their
close() methods. After closing stdout, I could not print anymore, so
this seemed to work. However, later I noticed that they were not really
closed. When I close them using os.close(), it did work.
What is the difference between these two methods and what is the reason
behind it? It took me a day to find out why I could not log out after
starting the daemon.

Martijn

I've had excellent results with variants of the cookbook entry at

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Coo.../Recipe/278731

but perhaps you're using a non unix OS, which will make that recipe wrong.

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Robin Becker

[Martijn Brouwer]

On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 23:13 +0000, Robin Becker wrote:

Martijn Brouwer wrote:

I am writing a unix daemon in python, so I want to close stdin, stdout
and stderr.
My first attempt was to the standard file descriptors using their
close() methods. After closing stdout, I could not print anymore, so
this seemed to work. However, later I noticed that they were not really
closed. When I close them using os.close(), it did work.
What is the difference between these two methods and what is the reason
behind it? It took me a day to find out why I could not log out after
starting the daemon.

Martijn

I've had excellent results with variants of the cookbook entry at

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Coo.../Recipe/278731

I read this one, which was the reason that I tried os.close instead of
sys.stdXXX.close(). But I would like to know why it does not close a
file discriptor is I call its close method().
Martijn

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Martijn Brouwer <e.***********@alumnus.utwente.nl>

[Martijn Brouwer]

On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 23:15 +0000, Robin Becker wrote:

Robin Becker wrote:

Martijn Brouwer wrote:

I am writing a unix daemon in python, so I want to close stdin, stdout
and stderr.
My first attempt was to the standard file descriptors using their
close() methods. After closing stdout, I could not print anymore, so
this seemed to work. However, later I noticed that they were not really
closed. When I close them using os.close(), it did work.
What is the difference between these two methods and what is the reason
behind it? It took me a day to find out why I could not log out after
starting the daemon.

Martijn

I've had excellent results with variants of the cookbook entry at

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Coo.../Recipe/278731

but perhaps you're using a non unix OS, which will make that recipe wrong.

Well, I am writing a unix daemon ;)

Martijn

[Donn Cave]

In article <ma***************************************@python. org>,
Martijn Brouwer <e.***********@alumnus.utwente.nl> wrote:
....

I read this one, which was the reason that I tried os.close instead of
sys.stdXXX.close(). But I would like to know why it does not close a
file discriptor is I call its close method().

They're special. I suppose because of internal dependencies - last
chance exception handler etc. - they are created without a close
function, internally, so close() has no effect. I don't know if it
really makes any sense, since anyway one may close the file descriptors
directly as you did.

Donn Cave, do**@u.washington.edu