Accessing Objects Based On Their ID

[Tim Daneliuk]

This is probably obvious to you Python Geniuses (tm) out there but,
it is very late and I am experiencing Brain Fade:

Given the ID of an object, is there a way to access it? For example,
if we have the ID of a class instance, is there a way to invoke its
methods and attributes knowning only that ID? Similarly, if we have the
ID of a function, is there a way to call it?

This comes up because of an implementation I had in mind wherein I
would store the IDs of a notionally linked-list of objects - but without
the link - I just want to store their IDs in the desired order. But later,
when I want to actually use the objects I need a way to get from ID back
to something accessible in the namespace...

TIA,
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[Diez B. Roggisch]

Given the ID of an object, is there a way to access it? For example,
if we have the ID of a class instance, is there a way to invoke its
methods and attributes knowning only that ID? Similarly, if we have the
ID of a function, is there a way to call it?
No.
This comes up because of an implementation I had in mind wherein I
would store the IDs of a notionally linked-list of objects - but without
the link - I just want to store their IDs in the desired order. But
later, when I want to actually use the objects I need a way to get from ID
back to something accessible in the namespace...

Why only the id? A list only stores a reference to the object anyway - no
copy of it. So you don't gain anything by using the id.
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Diez B. Roggisch

[Fredrik Lundh]

Tim Daneliuk wrote:

This is probably obvious to you Python Geniuses (tm) out there but,
it is very late and I am experiencing Brain Fade:

Given the ID of an object, is there a way to access it?
short answer: no.

longer answer: write a small C extension that casts an integer (or long integer)
argument to a PyObject, increments the refcount, and returns the object. or
use gc.get_objects() to get a list of all GC-aware objects, and see if your object
is in there. etc. all solutions are fragile, non-portable, and/or inefficient.
This comes up because of an implementation I had in mind wherein I
would store the IDs of a notionally linked-list of objects - but without
the link - I just want to store their IDs in the desired order. But later,
when I want to actually use the objects I need a way to get from ID back
to something accessible in the namespace...

sounds like "import weakref" might be what you need.

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[Fredrik Lundh]

> longer answer: write a small C extension that casts an integer (or long integer)

argument to a PyObject, increments the refcount, and returns the object.

here's a pointer to a pointer to such a function, btw:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/013715.html

(see other messages in that thread for more on why this is a stupid idea)

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[Tim Daneliuk]

Diez B. Roggisch wrote:

Given the ID of an object, is there a way to access it? For example,
if we have the ID of a class instance, is there a way to invoke its
methods and attributes knowning only that ID? Similarly, if we have the
ID of a function, is there a way to call it?

No.

This comes up because of an implementation I had in mind wherein I
would store the IDs of a notionally linked-list of objects - but without
the link - I just want to store their IDs in the desired order. But
later, when I want to actually use the objects I need a way to get from ID
back to something accessible in the namespace...

Why only the id? A list only stores a reference to the object anyway - no
copy of it. So you don't gain anything by using the id.

Point taken... thanks.

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[Terry Reedy]

"Tim Daneliuk" <tu****@tundraware.com> wrote in message
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Given the ID of an object, is there a way to access it?

You got the right short answer already.
Another long answer 'yes' is to keep a dictionary mapping ids to objects,
but as Diez pointed out, you need a real reason to do this.

In some respects, id() is like a siren (in the mythological sense) that
Python would be better off without.

Terry J. Reedy