how to start a new process while the other ist running on

[Erik Geiger]

Hi,

sorry, my english ist not that got but I'll try.

I have a running python script (capisuit incoming.py). This script shall
start a linux shell script. If I start this script like os.system(/paht/to
shellscipt.sh) the python scipt waits for the exit of the shell script and
then goes on with the rest of the python script.

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

Thanks for any hints

Erik
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Jemanden wie ein rohes Ei zu behandeln kann auch bedeuten, ihn in die Pfanne
zu hauen.

[Harlin Seritt]

Quickie:

os.system("/path/to/script.sh &")

More elegant, have a look at threads

------------
Harlin Seritt

Erik Geiger wrote:

Hi,

sorry, my english ist not that got but I'll try.

I have a running python script (capisuit incoming.py). This script shall
start a linux shell script. If I start this script like os.system(/paht/to
shellscipt.sh) the python scipt waits for the exit of the shell script and
then goes on with the rest of the python script.

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

Thanks for any hints

Erik

[Jean Brouwers]

See the os. spawn* functions. For example

os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, /path/to/script, args)

/Jean Brouwers

In article <cq**********@online.de>, Erik Geiger <Er*********@gmx.de>
wrote:

Hi,

sorry, my english ist not that got but I'll try.

I have a running python script (capisuit incoming.py). This script shall
start a linux shell script. If I start this script like os.system(/paht/to
shellscipt.sh) the python scipt waits for the exit of the shell script and
then goes on with the rest of the python script.

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

Thanks for any hints

Erik

[Fredrik Lundh]

Erik Geiger wrote:

I have a running python script (capisuit incoming.py). This script shall
start a linux shell script. If I start this script like os.system(/paht/to
shellscipt.sh) the python scipt waits for the exit of the shell script and
then goes on with the rest of the python script.

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

if you have Python 2.4, you can use the subprocess module:

http://docs.python.org/lib/module-subprocess.html

see the spawn(P_NOWAIT) example for how to use it in your
case:

http://docs.python.org/lib/node236.html

as others have noted, os.spawn(P_NOWAIT) can be used directly, as
can os.system("command&") (where the trailing "&" tells the shell to run
the command in the background).

subprocess is available for Python 2.2 and 2.3 as well, by the way:

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~astrand/popen5/

</F>

[Erik Geiger]

Fredrik Lundh schrieb:

Erik Geiger wrote:
[...]

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

if you have Python 2.4, you can use the subprocess module:

http://docs.python.org/lib/module-subprocess.html

see the spawn(P_NOWAIT) example for how to use it in your
case:

http://docs.python.org/lib/node236.html

Thats what I've tried, but it did not work. Maybe it's because I want to
start something like su -c '/path/to/skript $parameter1 $parameter2' user
I don't understand the syntax of spawn os.spawnlp(os.P_NOWAIT, "/path/to
script", "the script again?", "the args for the script?")

as others have noted, os.spawn(P_NOWAIT) can be used directly, as
can os.system("command&") (where the trailing "&" tells the shell to run
the command in the background).
Thats what I've used in the Shellscript, but I haven't realized how to use
it in thy python script, thanks! :)

subprocess is available for Python 2.2 and 2.3 as well, by the way:

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~astrand/popen5/

</F>

Erik
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zu hauen.

[Erik Geiger]

Jean Brouwers schrieb:

See the os. spawn* functions. For example

os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, /path/to/script, args)

/Jean Brouwers

Thats what I've tried, but failed.

Thanks anyway ;-)

Greets

Erik
[...]
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[Erik Geiger]

Thanks, thats what I use now :)

Harlin Seritt schrieb:

Quickie:

os.system("/path/to/script.sh &")

More elegant, have a look at threads

------------
Harlin Seritt

Erik Geiger wrote:

Hi,

sorry, my english ist not that got but I'll try.

I have a running python script (capisuit incoming.py). This script shall
start a linux shell script. If I start this script like
os.system(/paht/to shellscipt.sh) the python scipt waits for the exit of
the shell script and then goes on with the rest of the python script.

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

Thanks for any hints

Erik

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zu hauen.

[Donn Cave]

In article <cq**********@online.de>, Erik Geiger <Er*********@gmx.de>
wrote:

Fredrik Lundh schrieb:

Erik Geiger wrote:

[...]

How to start a shell script without waiting for the exit of that shell
script? It shall start the shell script and immediately execute the next
python command.

if you have Python 2.4, you can use the subprocess module:

http://docs.python.org/lib/module-subprocess.html

see the spawn(P_NOWAIT) example for how to use it in your
case:

http://docs.python.org/lib/node236.html

Thats what I've tried, but it did not work. Maybe it's because I want to
start something like su -c '/path/to/skript $parameter1 $parameter2' user
I don't understand the syntax of spawn os.spawnlp(os.P_NOWAIT, "/path/to
script", "the script again?", "the args for the script?")

Unfortunately this particular case kind of dilutes the advantages
of spawnv. In the common case, parameter1 et al. would be submitted
directly as the parameter list. I believe it may be clearer to start
with to think about the spawnv() function -
os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, path, [cmdname, parameter1, parameter2])

If one of the parameters is itself another command, then of course
it has to be rendered as a string
os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, '/bin/su', ['su', '-c', '%s %s %s' % (cmd,
parameter1, parameter2)])
so you have almost as much work to scan the parameters for shell
metacharacters as you would have with system().

Donn Cave, do**@u.washington.edu

[Erik Geiger]

Donn Cave schrieb:

In article <cq**********@online.de>, Erik Geiger <Er*********@gmx.de>
wrote: [...]

Thats what I've tried, but it did not work. Maybe it's because I want to
start something like su -c '/path/to/skript $parameter1 $parameter2'
user

Unfortunately this particular case kind of dilutes the advantages
of spawnv. In the common case, parameter1 et al. would be submitted
directly as the parameter list. I believe it may be clearer to start
with to think about the spawnv() function -
os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, path, [cmdname, parameter1, parameter2])

If one of the parameters is itself another command, then of course
it has to be rendered as a string
os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, '/bin/su', ['su', '-c', '%s %s %s' % (cmd,
parameter1, parameter2)])
so you have almost as much work to scan the parameters for shell
metacharacters as you would have with system().

Donn Cave, do**@u.washington.edu

OK, thats too high for me ;-)

Is the %s the variable for the following commands/parameters? If I have
three parameters, I'll need one more %s? Where to write the user for the su
command?

Well, I've given up ;-)

Thanks for the explanation!

Erik
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zu hauen.

[Keith Dart]

On 2004-12-22, Erik Geiger <Er*********@gmx.de> wrote:

Donn Cave schrieb:

In article <cq**********@online.de>, Erik Geiger <Er*********@gmx.de>
wrote:

[...]

> Thats what I've tried, but it did not work. Maybe it's because I want to
> start something like su -c '/path/to/skript $parameter1 $parameter2'
> user

Unfortunately this particular case kind of dilutes the advantages
of spawnv. In the common case, parameter1 et al. would be submitted
directly as the parameter list. I believe it may be clearer to start
with to think about the spawnv() function -
os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, path, [cmdname, parameter1, parameter2])

If one of the parameters is itself another command, then of course
it has to be rendered as a string
os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, '/bin/su', ['su', '-c', '%s %s %s' % (cmd,
parameter1, parameter2)])
so you have almost as much work to scan the parameters for shell
metacharacters as you would have with system().

Donn Cave, do**@u.washington.edu

OK, thats too high for me ;-)

Is the %s the variable for the following commands/parameters? If I have
three parameters, I'll need one more %s? Where to write the user for the su
command?

Well, I've given up ;-)

Hey, don't give up. There is help. ;-) guess...

There is a package called pyNMS (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pynms)
That has a module called "proctools", and also one called "sudo". Once
you set up sudo correctly, you can do what you want easily.

However, be aware that proctools spawns a process with the subprocess
stdio connected to _your_ parent process, and does not inherit the stdio
of the parent. So, if the subprocess writes a lot of stuff you must read
it, or the subprocess will block. However, there is some (perhaps buggy)
support for asynchronous operation where those reads happen
automatically (on Linux).


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