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One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....
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Most Python programmers I know are 40+. I am myself 47 (born in december
1956).

regards Gerrit

P.S.,

how many teeners are still programming? Most teeners I know build
websites, but they don't program.

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Jul 18 '05 #2

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Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....

Is this a marketing survey?

age: 31
marital status: married - have 1 wife
parental status: 2 children
canine status: have 1 dog
feline status: 1 cat
employment status: (very) thankfully have a (good) job
automobile status: 2 cars
sanity status: nearly none

Jeremy
Jul 18 '05 #3

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I myself am only 14. I've been programming for two years with Python. I've
tried C++, but found it a pain in the area that Preparation H fixes. I got
started programming with Python as a result of a 4-H computer science
project. I was looking for a free, easy to learn language and happily found
it with Python. I'm currently interested in the network-centered areas of
Python.

"Gerrit Muller" <ge***********@embeddedsystems.nl> wrote in message
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Most Python programmers I know are 40+. I am myself 47 (born in december
1956).

regards Gerrit

P.S.,

how many teeners are still programming? Most teeners I know build
websites, but they don't program.

--
Gaudi systems architecting:
<http://www.extra.research.philips.com/natlab/sysarch/>

Jul 18 '05 #4

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21 years and counting....

"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jul 18 '05 #5

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I am 35.

-Tom

On Wednesday 18 August 2004 05:20, Lucas Raab wrote:
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Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
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Jul 18 '05 #6

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Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer??


My average age has been increasing steadily for years. :-(
Jul 18 '05 #7

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Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


I have reached the grand old age of 30.

I think C++ has prematurely aged me, so Im hoping Python can roll back
the clock.
Will McGugan
Jul 18 '05 #8

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


I'm 19. The only other Python programmer I know personally is 21.
Congrats on discovering Python at 14; back then I thought VB was a godsend. ;)

Jul 18 '05 #9

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On 2004-08-18, Lucas Raab <py*********@hotmail.com> wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....

26 ..today ...a hell ...

--
Marcin Jurczuk, NIC-HDL: MJ1679-RIPE
Jul 18 '05 #10

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Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....

It's going to take a long time if we all just give single numbers.

From what I've seen at PyCon and PyGTA (and I *suck* at guessing ages,
btw), there is a large population lump in the late teens and early
twenties among the Twisted developers. IIRC there was actually a PyCon
survey that might have this information with *real* numbers. Theres a
good little bump among the scientific and core-dev peoples for late
forties and above (maybe those careers keep you flexible enough to try
new things? Maybe the projects are experimental enough that using a
"new" language isn't a problem?)

Beyond those groups, I would guess the average is in the early
thirties/late twenties, with most of the bulk from 25-ish through
33-ish. Of course, the "casual" Python programmer isn't likely to show
up to *any* Python-related event, and there are likely more of them than
those of us who've drunk the kool-aid. And as I mentioned before, I
suck at guessing ages...

It's so much more efficient to just make up the statistics.
Mike

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"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> writes:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


55. Wrote my first program at 16 (Fortran, punch cards).

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Jul 18 '05 #12

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32 here ..... but my wife is 25 ;-) my effective age is 25.

Peter
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Jul 18 '05 #13

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I am 24 years old!

Lucas Raab wrote:
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about....

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Christopher> I'm 19. The only other Python programmer I know personally
Christopher> is 21. Congrats on discovering Python at 14; back then I
Christopher> thought VB was a godsend. ;)

Whippersnapper... At 14 I would have thought a computer was a godsend. ;-)

(I'm 50, btw.)

Skip
Jul 18 '05 #15

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In article <jQ****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


I'm 50, and have been programming since LBJ was in the White House.
Python is a real breath of fresh air, and I'm delighted that my employer
is letting me use it for essentially all my work.

Python fits my brain.

Dave
Jul 18 '05 #16

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Gerrit Muller wrote:
how many teeners are still programming? Most teeners I know build
websites, but they don't program.


I turned 20 about 6 months ago and I've been goofing around with
Python for about 2 years. I'd also been programming in other languages
(like Basic :-) for a long time before that.

--
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Brendan Barnwell
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is
no path, and leave a trail."
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23
Jul 18 '05 #18

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Lucas Raab wrote:
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43 (20 years a programmer).
Jul 18 '05 #19

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> One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
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22....started programming with 15 (Perl) ...

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I'll be 50 in October.

Larry Bates
Syscon, Inc.

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Lucas Raab wrote:
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57, used to build my own logic using gas discharge tubes :)

I doubt I'll bother to learn C#
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Jul 18 '05 #22

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45.

The gory details can be found at http://c2.com/cgi/wiki/wiki?PaulMcGuire

-- Paul
Jul 18 '05 #23

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Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....

55. What a concept; built in lists, dictionaries, tuples, garbage collection,
OO, automatic typing.....

Jul 18 '05 #24

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Lucas Raab wrote:
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30

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Jul 18 '05 #25

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Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


29, but I don't know if I qualify for 'Python programmer'... I use C++
professionally, and use Python only for small scripts and for some small
simple hobby-projects.

--
"Codito ergo sum"
Roel Schroeven
Jul 18 '05 #26

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:20:31 GMT, rumours say that "Lucas Raab"
<py*********@hotmail.com> might have written:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


I believe the average will be more than 25. Not many kids program these
days. I'm 32 btw.
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Jul 18 '05 #27

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:34:08 -0400, rumours say that Jeremy Jones
<za******@bellsouth.net> might have written:
Is this a marketing survey?

age: 31
marital status: married - have 1 wife
parental status: 2 children
canine status: have 1 dog
feline status: 1 cat
employment status: (very) thankfully have a (good) job
automobile status: 2 cars
sanity status: nearly none


You forgot to give us address and credit card details. Thanks in
advance for your reply.
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Jul 18 '05 #28

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:36:09 -0500, rumours say that Skip Montanaro
<sk**@pobox.com> might have written:

Christopher> I'm 19. The only other Python programmer I know personally
Christopher> is 21. Congrats on discovering Python at 14; back then I
Christopher> thought VB was a godsend. ;)
[skip]
Whippersnapper... At 14 I would have thought a computer was a godsend. ;-)

(I'm 50, btw.)


Perhaps when the timbot was 14, *everything* was godsent (or so the
Bible describes things :)
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On Wednesday 18 August 2004 05:20 am, Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


52 years old, programming for 35, programming Python for about 10.

Dr. Gary Herron
Jul 18 '05 #30

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> One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
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31

I use Python mostly for web development (with Quixote as a framework).
Pitty that can't use Python in Flash instead of Actionscript and as a
Javascript replacement ;-)

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"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> writes:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
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about....


24. (anyone keeping count?)
--
Marius Bernklev
Jul 18 '05 #32

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Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> writes:
Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....

57, used to build my own logic using gas discharge tubes :)


48, but my first logic was build using 24V relays.
Jul 18 '05 #33

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Thomas Heller wrote:
Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> writes:

Lucas Raab wrote:

One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


57, used to build my own logic using gas discharge tubes :)

48, but my first logic was build using 24V relays.


yea I also did stuff with relays and strowger telephone switches, far more
exciting than billions of fet transistors simulating an electric fire :)

--
Robin Becker
Jul 18 '05 #34

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Dave> Python fits my brain.

I agree. This gets my nod for QOTW.

Skip
Jul 18 '05 #35

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Thomas Heller wrote:
Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> writes:

Lucas Raab wrote:

One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


57, used to build my own logic using gas discharge tubes :)

48, but my first logic was build using 24V relays.


Thomas,
I guess I did about 100 projects with 24v relays. This was
mostly in the oil and gas industry or emergency power.
wes

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Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> writes:
Thomas Heller wrote:
Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> writes:
Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....
57, used to build my own logic using gas discharge tubes :)

48, but my first logic was build using 24V relays.


yea I also did stuff with relays and strowger telephone switches, far
more exciting than billions of fet transistors simulating an electric
fire :)


Maybe. My ring counter with 12 relays or so ran at a frequency of about
5 Hertz, after a week of drilling and soldering, nowadays I could desing
ring counters running at hundreds or maybe even thousends of MHz, use a
1.7 V supply, only by entering some VHDL code (*) at the computer,
compiling and downloading it to an FPGA.

But the FPGA doesn't make the same noise ;-)

(*) I have still to try Jan Decaluwe's (sp?) MyHDL to create the
ringcounter, or even more complicated things, with Python.
Jul 18 '05 #37

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Mike C. Fletcher wrote:
survey that might have this information with *real* numbers. Theres a
good little bump among the scientific and core-dev peoples for late
forties and above (maybe those careers keep you flexible enough to try
new things? Maybe the projects are experimental enough that using a
"new" language isn't a problem?)

The people who enter a carreer that involves science to any real degree
*must* mantain flexibility. They typically do research and nothing
would really get done if this weren't the case.

Since experimental math came along (very recent - I believe in just the
last few years) and since numerics is a large part of Physics now, it'd
make sense that the older ones would pick up an easy to learn language.
And since the GSL has python bindings, all the better.
Jul 18 '05 #38

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Marius Bernklev wrote:
"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> writes:

One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....

24. (anyone keeping count?)


It's raining so I can't go home
Gerrit Muller 47
Lucas Raab 14
OKB 20
Jeremy Jones 31
Ben Last 31
Guyon Moree 21
Tom Brown 31
Will McGugan 30
Christopher T King 19
Skip Montanero 50
Martin Jurczuk 26
Martin Jackson 55
Peter Wilkinson 32
oziko 24
Dave Opstad 50
Adonis 23
Peter Hickman 43
Axel Steiner 22
Larry Bates 49
Robin Becker 57
Thomas Heller 48
Paul McGuire 45
Wes Weston 55
P@draigBrady 30
Ian Sparks 34
Roel Schroeven 29
Christos "TZOTZIOY" Georgiou 32
Garry Herron 52
Ksenia Marasanova 31
Robert Boyd 40
Marius Bernklev 24

Count 31
Average 35.32258065
Stddev 12.43754289
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Robin Becker
Jul 18 '05 #39

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Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> writes:
Marius Bernklev wrote:
24. (anyone keeping count?)

It's raining so I can't go home Martin Jackson 55


Unless there's an elderly Martin out there as well, this should be
"Mark."

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Jul 18 '05 #40

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Robin Becker <ro***@reportlab.com> said :
It's raining so I can't go home


One more datapoint (it's raining here too) : 44 (next week :-)

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Jul 18 '05 #41

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Lucas Raab wrote:
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Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


I'm 13, I'll be 14 in 89 days. I started doing somewhat real programming
at around 11; I had done silly things in a VB-like language for Mac OS
before then, mostly "viruses" that displayed a full-screen window with
no close button, but hadn't written any code.
Jul 18 '05 #42

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67. My impression is that it easier to learn python when you are younger.
egbert
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Jul 18 '05 #43

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mj******@alumni.caltech.edu (Mark Jackson) writes:
"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> writes:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
about....


55. Wrote my first program at 16 (Fortran, punch cards).

--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it
is the merger of state and corporate power.
- Benito Mussolini


Finally, someone in my cohort :-). 52. Also wrote first program at
16, FORTRAN, on punch cards. Many, many languages later found python
and bliss. In the middle of a world of meetings, project planning,
and other project managering a few hours coding restores a sense of
hope.

(BTW, nice signature quote. See http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/ for
related materials.)

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Jul 18 '05 #44

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48.16

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Jul 18 '05 #45

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42 (well, you knew that would be answer, didn't you? ;)

Tim J

Jul 18 '05 #46

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I'm 30-years-and-1-month.

--Irmen
Jul 18 '05 #47

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Ted
"Lucas Raab" <py*********@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jQ****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net>...
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46... 1 year Python... 26 years pretty much everything else. I'd like
to retire with Python, it's that good.
Jul 18 '05 #48

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Lucas Raab wrote:
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Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
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I am still younger than average Python programmer:

30
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In article <u_********************@powergate.ca>, Peter Hansen wrote:
Lucas Raab wrote:
One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
Python programmer??


My average age has been increasing steadily for years. :-(


LOL =)

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Jul 18 '05 #50

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