LAID (was: python libs v lisp coolness?

[mike420]

Joe Marshall <pr***********@comcast.net> wrote
in <he**********@comcast.net>:

Kenny Tilton <kt*****@nyc.rr.com> writes:

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. If Lisp is such a great language and
people love it so much, how come they don't write any code?

Between python bashing and attempting pull static typer's heads out
of their asses, who has the time?

(By the way is it "static typist" or "static typer" ?)

Lispers need to cooperate with others on libraries. Maybe a Consortium of
Underdog Dynamically-Typed Languages needs to be started. Underdog
languages are more interested in libraries and cooperation.

For each library, a language-agnostic interface description (in
LAID language, of course) should be generated by porters, so that
later FFIs could be produced for each language automatically. This
is the opposite (and complementary to) SWIG: SWIG auto-generates dumb
interface information and needs a lot of human post-work for each
specific language.

"Are you guys having trouble with that GTK lib? - No, we got LAID!"

[Thomas F. Burdick]

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For those of you who haven't noticed yet, this is a troll whose "name"
is a wack allusion to smoking marijuana. Ignore it.

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[Bradd W. Szonye]

> mi*****@ziplip.com writes:
[joke snipped by Mr Burdick]

Thomas F. Burdick <tf*@famine.OCF.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:

For those of you who haven't noticed yet, this is a troll whose "name"
is a wack allusion to smoking marijuana. Ignore it.

You may want to develop your "telling the difference between a troll and
a joke" skills.
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[Peter Hansen]

"Bradd W. Szonye" wrote:

mi*****@ziplip.com writes:

[joke snipped by Mr Burdick]

Thomas F. Burdick <tf*@famine.OCF.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:

For those of you who haven't noticed yet, this is a troll whose "name"
is a wack allusion to smoking marijuana. Ignore it.

You may want to develop your "telling the difference between a troll and
a joke" skills.

Bradd, note the crossposting, which we're all continuing mercilessly.
mike420 is a known troll, and whether or not he posts a joke from time
to time, that doesn't change what Thomas said, nor the relevance of his
advice. Until mike420 shapes up (primarily by ceasing this endless
crossposting which is only done to stir up animosity so he can watch
the flamefests), it's probably a good idea for most people to ignore
anything he posts.

-Peter

[Andreas Rottmann]

mi*****@ziplip.com writes:

[ sorry for cross-posting, but I really think this is relevant on all
newsgroups posted ]

Joe Marshall <pr***********@comcast.net> wrote
in <he**********@comcast.net>:

Kenny Tilton <kt*****@nyc.rr.com> writes:

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. If Lisp is such a great language and
people love it so much, how come they don't write any code?

[...]
Lispers need to cooperate with others on libraries. Maybe a Consortium of
Underdog Dynamically-Typed Languages needs to be started. Underdog
languages are more interested in libraries and cooperation.

For each library, a language-agnostic interface description (in
LAID language, of course) should be generated by porters, so that
later FFIs could be produced for each language automatically. This
is the opposite (and complementary to) SWIG: SWIG auto-generates dumb
interface information and needs a lot of human post-work for each
specific language.

"Are you guys having trouble with that GTK lib? - No, we got LAID!"

*g*

Actually, h2def.py does something like produce LAID (called defs
there). You basically scan the headers and adapt the resulting defs
(which are, bu coinicence, lisp/scheme data). It's used by the
guile-gobject GTK+2 bindings and the puthon GTK+2 bindings. We just
need some infrastructure/framework for cooperating on improving this
stuff and documenting the defs data format.

Regards, Andy
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