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Jul 18 '05 #1
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Then you are a pretty dumb program. I bet it is not. You should know
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attempt to subscript or unsubscript such is a casual or malicious joke
(possibly from viruses, as probably with this case). What would you
do if I forged an email trying to subscribe/unsubscribe zsh-users
to/from itself? Would you send a messege asking it to reply?

Tempted programmer

PS. Anyone know what mailman would do?
Jul 18 '05 #2
"Terry Reedy" <tj*****@udel.edu> writes:
<zs************@sunsite.dk> wrote in message
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Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
Hi, exmlm
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Usually, this happens when you just hit the "reply" button.
If this does not work, simply copy the address and paste it into
the "To:" field of a new message.

I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing

list.

Then you are a pretty dumb program. I bet it is not. You should know
that any 'user' called xxx-list is another mailing list and that any
attempt to subscript or unsubscript such is a casual or malicious joke
(possibly from viruses, as probably with this case).


Ever heard of sublists? And about people using different addresses for
each list they subscribe to, such as us***********@dom.tld?
What would you do if I forged an email trying to subscribe/unsubscribe
zsh-users to/from itself? Would you send a messege asking it to reply?


Yes, but the confirmation request would never reach the list. Ezmlm
will reject messages containing a "Mailing-List" header. (Unless it has
been configured as a sublist)

Probably Mailman should do the same!?
/Claus A
Jul 18 '05 #3

"Claus Alboege" <cs*@csa-net.dk> wrote in message
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"Terry Reedy" <tj*****@udel.edu> writes:
I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the
mailing list.

Then you are a pretty dumb program.

Not checking for the subscriber list is what I thought dumb.
Ever heard of sublists?
I would expect sublists to be specially configured, by or with list
owner approval, as you seem to imply below, rather than added thru
public subscribe mechanism.
And about people using different addresses for
each list they subscribe to, such as us***********@dom.tld?
No. I have never had unlimited address availability. I have exactly
1 from udel and 7 for the family from ISP. But it soulds like a great
idea. Just yesterday I got virus spam sent to names harvested from a
particular list. If I had a special address for that list, I would
resubscribe with a new name. If I ever buy a domain-name service with
'unlimited' email accounts, I will try this. Thanks.
will reject messages containing a "Mailing-List" header. (Unless it has been configured as a sublist)


TJR
Jul 18 '05 #4
"Terry Reedy" <tj*****@udel.edu> writes:
"Claus Alboege" <cs*@csa-net.dk> wrote in message
news:20**********************@csa-net.dk...
"Terry Reedy" <tj*****@udel.edu> writes:
>> I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing > list.
>
> Then you are a pretty dumb program.
Not checking for the subscriber list is what I thought dumb.
Oh, well I'm not sure why it has been implemented that way, but two
reasons that comes into mind are, code simplicity and the fact that
these bogus unsubscribe requests are really rare - at least until now.
Ever heard of sublists?


I would expect sublists to be specially configured, by or with list
owner approval, as you seem to imply below, rather than added thru
public subscribe mechanism.


Not nessecarily. Having a bunch of users, behind a slow and expencive
link, each one subscribed to more or less the same set of lists, would
benefit from sublists. These can easily be setup by the local
admin. There is no need to involve the admin of the parent list.
And about people using different addresses for
each list they subscribe to, such as us***********@dom.tld?


No. I have never had unlimited address availability. I have exactly
1 from udel and 7 for the family from ISP. But it soulds like a great
idea. Just yesterday I got virus spam sent to names harvested from a
particular list. If I had a special address for that list, I would
resubscribe with a new name.


Exactly, yet another way to deal with spam :)
If I ever buy a domain-name service with 'unlimited' email accounts, I
will try this. Thanks.

/Claus A
Jul 18 '05 #5

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