sort() doesn't work on dist.keys() ?

[Steve Pinard]

(Got a comm error trying to post first time, sorry if this
is a duplicate)

New to Python, so please bear with me.

import sys
print sys.modules.keys() # works fine ['code', ...snip... ] print sys.modules.keys().sort() # returns None, why?

None

According to my reference (Nutshell), keys() returns a
"copy" of the dict keys as a list, so I would expect when
I aply sort() to that list, I would get an in-place sorted
version of that list. Why do I get None?

TIA,
- Steve

[Greg Krohn]

"Steve Pinard" <sp*****@ra.rockwell.com> wrote in message
news:6c*************************@posting.google.co m...

(Got a comm error trying to post first time, sorry if this
is a duplicate)

New to Python, so please bear with me.

import sys
print sys.modules.keys() # works fine ['code', ...snip... ] print sys.modules.keys().sort() # returns None, why? None

According to my reference (Nutshell), keys() returns a
"copy" of the dict keys as a list, so I would expect when
I aply sort() to that list, I would get an in-place sorted
version of that list. Why do I get None?

TIA,
- Steve

You said it yourself. It's an IN PLACE sort, so it won't return anything
(well, None, but that doesn't count). Try this:

**UNTESTED**

mykeys = sys.modules.keys()
print mykeys [...a list of keys...] mykeys.sort() #Note it's IN PLACE. Nothing is returned, so there's no need to assign anything print mykeys

[...a SORTED list of keys...]

Greg

[Troels Therkelsen]

In article <6c*************************@posting.google.com> , Steve Pinard wrote:

(Got a comm error trying to post first time, sorry if this
is a duplicate)

New to Python, so please bear with me.

import sys
print sys.modules.keys() # works fine ['code', ...snip... ] print sys.modules.keys().sort() # returns None, why?

None

According to my reference (Nutshell), keys() returns a
"copy" of the dict keys as a list, so I would expect when
I aply sort() to that list, I would get an in-place sorted
version of that list. Why do I get None?

From the documentation of the mutable sequence sort() method, note (7):

"The sort() and reverse() methods modify the list in place for
economy of space when sorting or reversing a large list. To remind
you that they operate by side effect, they don't return the sorted
or reversed list."

Or, in other words, sort() always returns None. If you want to sort, you
need to bind a name to the list you want to sort, first, then call sort() on
it and then print the now sorted list. For example:

sys_keys = sys.modules.keys()
sys_keys.sort()
print sys_keys

Hope this helps,

Troels Therkelsen

[Sean Ross]

"Steve Pinard" <sp*****@ra.rockwell.com> wrote in message
news:6c*************************@posting.google.co m...

I would expect when
I aply sort() to that list, I would get an in-place sorted
version of that list. Why do I get None?

Apparently, you get None to remind you that you've done an inplace sort,

see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw.p...=faq06.020.htp

[Cliff Wells]

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 13:14, Steve Pinard wrote:

(Got a comm error trying to post first time, sorry if this
is a duplicate)

New to Python, so please bear with me.

import sys
print sys.modules.keys() # works fine ['code', ...snip... ] print sys.modules.keys().sort() # returns None, why?

None

According to my reference (Nutshell), keys() returns a
"copy" of the dict keys as a list, so I would expect when
I aply sort() to that list, I would get an in-place sorted
version of that list. Why do I get None?

Because sort() sorts the list in-place. It doesn't return anything
(which in Python means it returns None).

Try this instead:

keys = sys.modules.keys()
keys.sort()
print keys

--
Cliff Wells, Software Engineer
Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net)
[phone] [phone]

[Greg Fortune]

Because sorts works in place and the sort fuction returns None rather than a
copy of the list. Try
import sys
temp = sys.modules.keys()
temp.sort()
print temp
Greg
Steve Pinard wrote:

(Got a comm error trying to post first time, sorry if this
is a duplicate)

New to Python, so please bear with me.

import sys
print sys.modules.keys() # works fine ['code', ...snip... ] print sys.modules.keys().sort() # returns None, why?

None

According to my reference (Nutshell), keys() returns a
"copy" of the dict keys as a list, so I would expect when
I aply sort() to that list, I would get an in-place sorted
version of that list. Why do I get None?

TIA,
- Steve