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Computer Language Popularity Trend


Computer Language Popularity Trend

This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Xah
xa*@xahlee.org
http://xahlee.org/

Sep 27 '06 #1
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Xah Lee wrote:
Computer Language Popularity Trend

This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Xah
xa*@xahlee.org
http://xahlee.org/
Wow, java is a low level industrial language? ;)

Sep 27 '06 #2
Thus spoke Xah Lee (on 2006-09-27 05:03):
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's
popularity, as indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups.
...
http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html
When the Samurai of medieval Japan were confronted
with new 'battlefield language', e.g. early Shotguns,
they resisted because one could push any peasant
behind a gun -- thus nullifying the result of
the Samurai Art of Warfare that required a life
full of learning - in the end wiping out a
complete culture.

Same trend here - the reason is: 'cost' ;-)
Regards & scnr

Mirco

f'up: clpm, clp
Sep 27 '06 #3
On 9/27/06, Mirco Wahab <pe************ *********@gmx.d ewrote:
Thus spoke Xah Lee (on 2006-09-27 05:03):
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's
popularity, as indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups.
...
http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

When the Samurai of medieval Japan were confronted
with new 'battlefield language', e.g. early Shotguns,
they resisted because one could push any peasant
shouldn't this be "they [the Samurai] did not resist"?
behind a gun -- thus nullifying the result of
the Samurai Art of Warfare that required a life
full of learning - in the end wiping out a
complete culture.

Same trend here - the reason is: 'cost' ;-)
Regards & scnr

Mirco

f'up: clpm, clp
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Sep 27 '06 #4

Xah Lee wrote:
Computer Language Popularity Trend

This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html
Careful there with the sweeping generalizations and quick judgments
about languages :)

Furthermore, it's nice to conclude that Lisp is getting more popular,
but we also have to take into account global trends (maybe more people
are using usenet in general? maybe the total number of programmers in
the world is increasing?).

Still, it's nice to see trends plotted out like that, thanks for the
work :)

mfh

Sep 27 '06 #5
In article <11************ **********@h48g 2000cwc.googleg roups.com>, ma**********@gm ail.com wrote:
>http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Careful there with the sweeping generalizations and quick judgments
about languages :)
I just read "PHP as a language is rather dry and business-like",
and fell off my chair.
Sep 27 '06 #6
Thus spoke Ramon Diaz-Uriarte (on 2006-09-27 11:01):
>When the Samurai of medieval Japan were confronted
with new 'battlefield language', e.g. early Shotguns,
they resisted because one could push any peasant

shouldn't this be "they [the Samurai] did not resist"?
The "resisted" believing all the buzz,
e.g.: "armies made of dudes with guns" ...

(and tried to preserve their Art,
which did not work in the end -
"the Art of Killing" was replaced
by "mass production of deaths" on
the battlefield ...)

Regards,

M.

Sep 27 '06 #7
On 9/27/06, Mirco Wahab <pe************ *********@gmx.d ewrote:
Thus spoke Ramon Diaz-Uriarte (on 2006-09-27 11:01):
When the Samurai of medieval Japan were confronted
with new 'battlefield language', e.g. early Shotguns,
they resisted because one could push any peasant
shouldn't this be "they [the Samurai] did not resist"?

The "resisted" believing all the buzz,
e.g.: "armies made of dudes with guns" ...
OK, I think I see it.
(and tried to preserve their Art,
which did not work in the end -
"the Art of Killing" was replaced
by "mass production of deaths" on
the battlefield ...)
Yeap, that I saw.

Thansk,

R.
>
Regards,

M.

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Bioinformatics Unit
Spanish National Cancer Centre (CNIO)
http://ligarto.org/rdiaz
Sep 27 '06 #8
ma**********@gm ail.com wrote:
Xah Lee wrote:
>Computer Language Popularity Trend

This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensiv e or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Careful there with the sweeping generalizations and quick judgments
about languages :)

Furthermore, it's nice to conclude that Lisp is getting more popular,
but we also have to take into account global trends (maybe more people
are using usenet in general? maybe the total number of programmers in
the world is increasing?).

Still, it's nice to see trends plotted out like that, thanks for the
work :)

mfh
Finally, a contribution of substance from lambda. Who woulda thunk it?
Sep 27 '06 #9
I, too, attempt to track the popularity of computer languages, but I
like to look at the job boards. My theory is that the number of
employers looking for particular skills indicates the relative
popularity of the language. This is a somewhat crude measure,
particularly with Microsoft technologies (VB, VB6, VB.NET, VS, etc). I
think it's much more reliable with open source languages, such as Java,
Perl, PHP, and so on.

'Popularity' is a slippery concept as well. C isn't real popular in
terms of jobs, but it is in terms of compensation. In system
administration (which I also follow), Windows has large numbers of
jobs, but a low level of compensation. OSes like AIX on the other hand
have lower numbers of available jobs, but those tend to be more highly
compensated. One could argue that compensation is a function of
popularity, with the more unpoular technologies having carrying a
bigger price to attract more people -- an example of supply and demand
-- but then one would have to argue that garbade collectors should be
more highly compensated that physicians.

You can also get a rough measure ot the popularity of web scripting
languages from an analysis of the URLs. The last time I did this was in
2003, and as I recall, these were the results:
PHP 30% and increasing
Perl 28% and falling
ASP 25% and falling fast
ColdFusion 6% and steady
Java and JSP 5% and increasing
others, Python, Ruby, ...

Again, this is a very rough measure. Java, for instance, is used by big
companies (like auto manufacturers, aerospace industries, defense
contractors, big retailers, etc.) One site/one vote isn't
representative necessarily, plus the bigger companies employ more
people than the smaller companies that tend to use FOSS.

Finally, in my area, we have a lot of banking and insurance jobs. These
companies internally are exclusively Microsoft shops. It's virtually
impossible to work there unless you know Visual Studio and SQL Server.
Misrosoft people tend not to prowl the newsgroups, and I would suspect
that any measurement based on numbers of newsgroup postings would be
skewed for this reason.

CC

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