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Idle won't start

For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.
Jul 18 '05 #1
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You didn't by any chance create a batch routine that sometimes creates a
file by
the name of "<python dir>\Lib\idleli b\idle.pyw" did you.

"Kerry Neilson" <km******@yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:ec******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.

Jul 18 '05 #2
km******@yahoo. com (Kerry Neilson) writes:
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.


Do you have any firewall type software? Some Windows firewalls
apparently believe trying to open a socket to 127.0.0.1 is a dastardly
attempt to compromise your privacy...

Cheers,
mwh

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Jul 18 '05 #3
>km******@yahoo .com (Kerry Neilson) writes:
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.


Have you tried running it from the command line?
like: <your python dir>\lib\idleli b\idle.py
and see if it produces any error messages?

Cheers!
Remco Boerma
Jul 18 '05 #4
"python newbie" <me*******@hotm ail.com> wrote in message news:<Gk******* ************@ne wssvr29.news.pr odigy.com>...
You didn't by any chance create a batch routine that sometimes creates a
file by
the name of "<python dir>\Lib\idleli b\idle.pyw" did you.

"Kerry Neilson" <km******@yahoo .com> wrote in message
news:ec******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.


Not that I am aware of, but I do have this file. Is it a problem?
Jul 18 '05 #5
Michael Hudson <mw*@python.net > wrote in message news:<m3******* *****@pc150.mat hs.bris.ac.uk>. ..
km******@yahoo. com (Kerry Neilson) writes:
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.


Do you have any firewall type software? Some Windows firewalls
apparently believe trying to open a socket to 127.0.0.1 is a dastardly
attempt to compromise your privacy...

Cheers,
mwh


No firewall.
Jul 18 '05 #6
"remco" <remco@localhos t> wrote in message news:<3f******* **************@ news.xs4all.nl> ...
km******@yahoo .com (Kerry Neilson) writes:
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.


Have you tried running it from the command line?
like: <your python dir>\lib\idleli b\idle.py
and see if it produces any error messages?

Cheers!
Remco Boerma


Yes. When idle won't work, even calling it from the cmd line doesn't
work. It's difficult to debug because it's inconsistent. It's
working fine at the moment.
Jul 18 '05 #7
No, I had a similar issue with something else, and it was because I
interfered with the app by creating a file with the same name. Just a
long shot.

Not that I am aware of, but I do have this file. Is it a problem?

Jul 18 '05 #8
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:39:50 -0700, David MacQuigg <sh****@127.0.0 .1>
wrote:
On 14 Dec 2003 10:50:29 -0800, km******@yahoo. com (Kerry Neilson)
wrote:
For the past couple of months, Idle won't start when I invoke it. I
am at a complete loss for why this is. When this happens, they python
command line still starts, and python works fine otherwise.
Most interesting to me is that a reboot won't fix the problem. But if
I just try it again sometime later it will work. Anyone have any
ideas? I'm running python 2.3 on windows 2000 professional.


This might be a different problem if your problem is truly
intermittent , but I am finding that IDLE has conflicts with other
installed programs. I have been running Python 2.3 under Windows
XP-Home with no problem for the last few months. Yesterday I
installed Ruby 1.8.1-11 and now IDLE won't start. No response to
clicking the icon, selecting the menu item, Nada. Removing Ruby
restores IDLE.

With Ruby installed, when I run IDLE from a command line
C:\Python23\Li b\idlelib>idle. py
I get a message:
"""
_tkinter.TclEr ror: Cant find a usable init.tcl in the following
directories: <c:\ruby\tcl\li b\tcl8.3> <c:\ruby\tcl\li b\tcl8.3>
c:/ruby/tcl/lib/tcl8.4 C:/Python23/lib/tcl8.4 C:/lib/tcl8.4
C:/library
This probably means that Tcl wasn't installed properly.
"""
I have no idea why IDLE is looking for library routines in the Ruby
subdirectories , or why all the strange variations in the search path
above, but it is clear that Ruby and IDLE cannot co-exist on one
computer.

Note: Re-installing Python23 after Ruby is installed doesn't help.
You have to remove Ruby completely.

-- Dave


More problems:
IDLE will start only if I never log off !!
If I log off and back on, IDLE fails to start, and I get the same
message as above.
Right after a re-install of Python 2.3.3, I can run IDLE, repeatedly,
with no problems, from my Admin account.
I'll try a complete uninstall of Python-2.3.3 ...
OK, I uninstalled everything except two DLL's in C:\WINDOWS\syst em32
The re-install looks normal. IDLE runs OK, but when I log on again,
it fails !!! Same message as above.

This is getting scary. I want my computer back !!. I'll try a
complete system restore.

That works. Python is happy. Sigh !!!

-- Dave

Jul 18 '05 #9
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:27:12 -0700, David MacQuigg <dm*@gain.com >
declaimed the following in comp.lang.pytho n:
This is getting scary. I want my computer back !!. I'll try a
complete system restore.

That works. Python is happy. Sigh !!!
I was about to suggest checking either autoexec.bat (W9x) or the
registry (via "My Computer/properties/advanced/environment variables")
(NT) for some left-overs defining a TCL path...

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