These Lists Are Being Cut To FOUR

[Mike Cox]

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
postgresql lists. I have decided that we are going to drop most of the
lists from the vote. We will only be making 4 lists into real Usenet
newsgroups if we win the election. The rest of the lists are crap and
they take up too much fucking room. Marc was an asshole for stealing
BIG8 newsgroup names without voting. He is an irresponsible piece of
shit scumbag cock-licking anus-eating foreskin-sniffing motherfucking
faggot. He has an ego the size of Dolly Parton's tits. Be sure to vote
yes on all four of these lists or every list will be removed.

Your support is most appreciated.

Mike Cox
mi**********@yahoo.com

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[Sim Zacks]

I think this is disgusting.
I feel that if someone does not like what Mike is doing the appropriate way
of dealing with it would be to post a rational argument. Not to send an
obviously forged email with his name on the from line.
""Mike Cox"" <mi**********@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20************************@mail3.lidya.net...

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
postgresql lists. I have decided that we are going to drop most of the
lists from the vote. We will only be making 4 lists into real Usenet
newsgroups if we win the election. The rest of the lists are crap and
they take up too much fucking room. Marc was an asshole for stealing
BIG8 newsgroup names without voting. He is an irresponsible piece of
shit scumbag cock-licking anus-eating foreskin-sniffing motherfucking
faggot. He has an ego the size of Dolly Parton's tits. Be sure to vote
yes on all four of these lists or every list will be removed.

Your support is most appreciated.

Mike Cox
mi**********@yahoo.com

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[Joel]

> Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these

postgresql lists. ...

(That was a mock diatribe, correct?)

Mike, you are not in charge, you are just leading the point on the RFD
since Marc has other priorities. (And believe me, he does.)

Take a break from the process for a day. There's no rush. And it really
isn't all on your back. If you insist on keeping it that way, the vote
will fail, and we'll be back where we were.

Are you needing a co-proponent?

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[Michael Glaesemann]

On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:23 PM, Joel wrote:

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
postgresql lists. ...

(That was a mock diatribe, correct?)

Joel,

I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along
these lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts.

Unless he 'fesses up and claims these posts as his own, I'm more than
willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. These mailing list/new
group threads have been tense enough as it is. :)

Regards,

Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com
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[Csaba Nagy]

I'm pretty sure the real poster was not Mike. It's very easy to forge
the mail headers, including the From, and comparing this mail with other
posts from Mike it's pretty obvious they were written from different
places.

Cheers,
Csaba.

On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 10:23, Joel wrote:

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
postgresql lists. ...

(That was a mock diatribe, correct?)

Mike, you are not in charge, you are just leading the point on the RFD
since Marc has other priorities. (And believe me, he does.)

Take a break from the process for a day. There's no rush. And it really
isn't all on your back. If you insist on keeping it that way, the vote
will fail, and we'll be back where we were.

Are you needing a co-proponent?

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[Joel]

> ...

I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along
these lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts.
Hmm.

X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char DD hex) in message header 'X-Mailer' X-Mailer: B\335ANet.org\n ^

Yeah, I think I'm going to agree with you on that.

The tone is definitely a little over the top compared to what he's
posted before. I should have checked the headers.
Unless he 'fesses up and claims these posts as his own, I'm more than
willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. These mailing list/new
group threads have been tense enough as it is. :)

Even if he were to claim it, I'd still give him the benefit of the doubt.
Polarhound seems to be enjoying a little pyromania in news.groups.

But we probably do need someone from the mail list to go co-proponent
with Mike.

Unless, of course, the majority of the list would prefer to keep the
status quo.

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[Joel]

Richard Huxton wrote

Joel wrote:

But we probably do need someone from the mail list to go co-proponent
with Mike.

Unless, of course, the majority of the list would prefer to keep the
status quo.

I must admit I'm not clear what difference this makes to those of us
subscribed to the mailing lists. Is the following correct?

1. We already have a news<=>mail gateway
2. The namespace is not officially recognised which means many news
servers don't provide a feed.
3. Mike Cox would like to go through the process to get some of these
names in the official hierarchy, thus spreading access
4. All lists will continue to be available via news.postgresql.org

If so, it seems that the only difference I (as a mail-based user) will
see is more people posting via newsgroups rather than email.

Am I missing something here?

No, not really. It raises the profile of the project a bit, makes access
to PostGreSQL a little easier for people who find usenet easier or
cheaper to use than mailing lists.

I don't think it's worth distracting the developers over it, but if some
of the users have some spare time to push it through, it might be worth
the effort.

And it would show support for usenet policy. Good neighbor stuff, you
know. Karma, as they say.

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[Kenneth Downs]

Mike Cox wrote:

This post is a forgery. It was posted out of pyrenet.fr, which seems to
support quite a few posters to this group, so it cannot be narrowed down
easily to one individual. Mike Cox posts through a different server.

If you want to post forgeries, I suggest an advocacy group, they were
created specifically to let the meaningless rants have someplace to go to
keep them out of technical groups like this one.

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
postgresql lists. I have decided that we are going to drop most of the
lists from the vote. We will only be making 4 lists into real Usenet
newsgroups if we win the election. The rest of the lists are crap and
they take up too much fucking room. Marc was an asshole for stealing
BIG8 newsgroup names without voting. He is an irresponsible piece of
shit scumbag cock-licking anus-eating foreskin-sniffing motherfucking
faggot. He has an ego the size of Dolly Parton's tits. Be sure to vote
yes on all four of these lists or every list will be removed.

Your support is most appreciated.

Mike Cox
mi**********@yahoo.com

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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Michael Glaesemann wrote:

On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:23 PM, Joel wrote:

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
postgresql lists. ...

(That was a mock diatribe, correct?)

Joel,

I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along these
lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts.

Unless he 'fesses up and claims these posts as his own, I'm more than willing
to give him the benefit of the doubt. These mailing list/new group threads
have been tense enough as it is. :)

Agreed from here ... as frustrated as some of Mike's posts have shown him
to be, he's never gone "over the edge" that I've seen ... *shrug*

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[Wayne Brown]

Michael Glaesemann <gr**@myrealbox.com> wrote:

I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along
these lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts.

I'm sure you're right. There's been some idiot trolling news.groups
for the past several weeks, impersonating other people and posting
this sort of garbage. I didn't check the headers on the phony "Mike"
article, but it's probably the same creep impersonating him. This jerk
has been trying to ruin discussions of several new groups, not just the
comp.databases.postgresql.general discussion. There even have been forged
votes on some newsgroups and forged emails sent to news.groups regulars,
all before the comp.databases.postgresql.general discussion came along.
There apparently is someone (or maybe several people) trying to disrupt
the newsgroup creation process and I'm afraid the postgresql groups are
getting caught in the crossfire.

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[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2004-11-10 07:25:08, schrieb Mike Cox:

Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these
Please can you shut-up and fuck yourself ?
postgresql lists. I have decided that we are going to drop most of the
lists from the vote. We will only be making 4 lists into real Usenet
newsgroups if we win the election. The rest of the lists are crap and
they take up too much fucking room. Marc was an asshole for stealing
BIG8 newsgroup names without voting. He is an irresponsible piece of
Nobody has stolen NEWS-GroupNames.

I have the same problem because I run a private newsserver like
this one from <news.postgresql.org>. Never I have ask another
ISP's for including my Newsgroups into feeds...

So postgresql.org and me are legigim newsgroups and it is the
responsability of ISP's whether they feed the servers with our
NewsGroups or not.
shit scumbag cock-licking anus-eating foreskin-sniffing motherfucking
faggot. He has an ego the size of Dolly Parton's tits. Be sure to vote
yes on all four of these lists or every list will be removed.
Removed from what ?
The lists are not includes in BIG8.
They can not be removed.
Your support is most appreciated.
Where do you live ?
Are you not reservist in the US-Army ?
Don't like to go to Iraq and let you kill ?
Mike Cox
mi**********@yahoo.com

Greetings
Michelle

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