Mirrors that don't suck.

[Dan Vande More]

Hey list, I'm just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a mirror that doesn't suck.

I generally don't do alot with postgres other than downloading and installing the newest releases.
Everytime there is a release, it takes forever for it to show up on an ftp server.
This is in the case that the ftp server even works. Now in a case where onelikes to browse with the browser of their choice, it totally blows becauseit's _so_ slow.

So is there maybe an http download somewhere? Or an FTP site that doesn't give me an "directory doesn't exist" error, or one that has more than 15k available, or one that maybe has the newest releases(7.4.1)? All of those would be perfect...

Dan

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[Tony]

Use the torrent.... it's quite quick!

T.
Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

I just tried :

ftp6.us.postgresql.org

Which doesn't even have PostgreSQL on it ;) It is the home of opennms
(at least to some degree).

If it doesn't have PostgreSQL on it, why is it listed as one? :)

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[B. van Ouwerkerk]

So is there maybe an http download somewhere? Or an FTP site that doesn't
give me an "directory doesn't exist" error, or one that has more than 15k
available, or one that maybe has the newest releases(7.4.1)? All of those
would be perfect...

I got a working 7.4.1 from one of the German mirrors.

B.
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[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 20:31, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Robert Treat wrote:

What might have been a more helpful email would be to point out that the
ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main directory and the directory
for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both should be updated to 7.4.1.

All of the above fixed ...

It would be helpful if someone were to add to the links page the UK
mirror http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.postgresql.org/

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[Robert Treat]

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 13:39, Dan Vande More wrote:

Hey list, I'm just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a mirror that doesn't suck.

I generally don't do alot with postgres other than downloading and installing the newest releases.
Everytime there is a release, it takes forever for it to show up on an ftp server.
This is in the case that the ftp server even works. Now in a case where one likes to browse with the browser of their choice, it totally blows because it's _so_ slow.

So is there maybe an http download somewhere? Or an FTP site that doesn't give me an "directory doesn't exist" error, or one that has more than 15k available, or one that maybe has the newest releases(7.4.1)? All of those would be perfect...

Dan

So this is how not to write an email asking people for help, seriously.
I just checked the first 5 mirror sites on the ftp mirrors page and
everyone of them had the latest code under pub/source/v7.4.1/ (or
something similar). What might have been a more helpful email would be
to point out that the ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main
directory and the directory for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both
should be updated to 7.4.1. You might have also included a list of the
mirror sites you were having trouble with so problems with those sites
could be tracked down easier. You might also want to CC
we*******@postgresql.org as well as posting to the -general list.

Oh, and for future reference you can download via http at
http://developer.postgresql.org/ftpsite/, and also at the sourceforge
site http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql/ (though I hesitate to
mention it because I haven't uploaded 7.4.1 there quite yet...)

I hope this helps.

Robert Treat
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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Oliver Elphick wrote:

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 20:31, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Robert Treat wrote:

What might have been a more helpful email would be to point out that the
ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main directory and the directory
for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both should be updated to 7.4.1.

All of the above fixed ...

It would be helpful if someone were to add to the links page the UK
mirror http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.postgresql.org/

Send the details to webmaster@ so that the guys can add it to the database
.... but, how are you mirroring? All official mirrors use rsync, and they
are auto-added to the list of mirrors, and updated nightly ...

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[Brian Hirt]

I've run into problems with some of the mirrors being consistently
unavailable and really slow to download 4k/sec on a lot of them.

ftp://ftp9.us.postgresql.org/pub/mirrors seems to work great all the
time. Now I hope this doesn't come across as complaining, because the
reason for this email is a question. What type bandwidth can you
expect to use if you become a mirror (1meg/sec? more less?) Also are
http mirrors acceptable? I would like to offer up one of our servers
on mobygames.com because I love postgresql and it would be a way to
help out a bit, but I don't really know enough about the requirements
right now.

Who should i talk to?

However, there are already 7 US mirrors.
On Dec 23, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Robert Treat wrote:

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 13:39, Dan Vande More wrote:

Hey list, I'm just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction
of a mirror that doesn't suck.

I generally don't do alot with postgres other than downloading and
installing the newest releases.
Everytime there is a release, it takes forever for it to show up on
an ftp server.
This is in the case that the ftp server even works. Now in a case
where one likes to browse with the browser of their choice, it
totally blows because it's _so_ slow.

So is there maybe an http download somewhere? Or an FTP site that
doesn't give me an "directory doesn't exist" error, or one that has
more than 15k available, or one that maybe has the newest
releases(7.4.1)? All of those would be perfect...

Dan

So this is how not to write an email asking people for help, seriously.
I just checked the first 5 mirror sites on the ftp mirrors page and
everyone of them had the latest code under pub/source/v7.4.1/ (or
something similar). What might have been a more helpful email would be
to point out that the ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main
directory and the directory for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both
should be updated to 7.4.1. You might have also included a list of the
mirror sites you were having trouble with so problems with those sites
could be tracked down easier. You might also want to CC
we*******@postgresql.org as well as posting to the -general list.

Oh, and for future reference you can download via http at
http://developer.postgresql.org/ftpsite/, and also at the sourceforge
site http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql/ (though I hesitate to
mention it because I haven't uploaded 7.4.1 there quite yet...)

I hope this helps.

Robert Treat
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[Joshua D. Drake]

Brian Hirt wrote:

I've run into problems with some of the mirrors being consistently
unavailable and really slow to download 4k/sec on a lot of them.

I can second this.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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[B. van Ouwerkerk]

I've run into problems with some of the mirrors being consistently
unavailable and really slow to download 4k/sec on a lot of them.

I can second this.

Perhaps you should wait a day or so until all mirrors are fully up to date
and the ppl who are in a hurry to get the source have got it..

Alternatively you US boys could get out of bed early and download it before
50% of the USA starts to download. I have got it about 12 hours ago from a
German mirror at a normal speed.

B.
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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Robert Treat wrote:

What might have been a more helpful email would be to point out that the
ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main directory and the directory
for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both should be updated to 7.4.1.

All of the above fixed ...

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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Brian Hirt wrote:

I've run into problems with some of the mirrors being consistently
unavailable and really slow to download 4k/sec on a lot of them.

I can second this.

Any idea of how fast your mirror is running at right now?

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[Joshua D. Drake]

I can second this.
Any idea of how fast your mirror is running at right now?

I just tried :

ftp6.us.postgresql.org

Which doesn't even have PostgreSQL on it ;) It is the home of opennms
(at least to some degree).
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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

I just tried :

ftp6.us.postgresql.org

Which doesn't even have PostgreSQL on it ;) It is the home of opennms
(at least to some degree).

If it doesn't have PostgreSQL on it, why is it listed as one? :)

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[Tony]

Use the torrent.... it's quite quick!

T.
Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

I just tried :

ftp6.us.postgresql.org

Which doesn't even have PostgreSQL on it ;) It is the home of opennms
(at least to some degree).

If it doesn't have PostgreSQL on it, why is it listed as one? :)

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[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 20:31, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Robert Treat wrote:

What might have been a more helpful email would be to point out that the
ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main directory and the directory
for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both should be updated to 7.4.1.

All of the above fixed ...

It would be helpful if someone were to add to the links page the UK
mirror http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.postgresql.org/

--
Oliver Elphick Ol************@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight, UK http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Oliver Elphick wrote:

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 20:31, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Robert Treat wrote:

What might have been a more helpful email would be to point out that the
ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main directory and the directory
for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both should be updated to 7.4.1.

All of the above fixed ...

It would be helpful if someone were to add to the links page the UK
mirror http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.postgresql.org/

Send the details to webmaster@ so that the guys can add it to the database
.... but, how are you mirroring? All official mirrors use rsync, and they
are auto-added to the list of mirrors, and updated nightly ...

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[bpalmer]

> Hey list, I'm just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a mirror that doesn't suck.

At least in the US, I think I should be pretty decent
(ftp3.us.postgresql.org). I've rate limited down to 6M/s but that should
be enough for anyone. I rsync every 4 hours. If anyone can't get to the
site of it's slow, please complain to me, I would love to know.

- Brandon

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[Mark Kirkwood]

ftp://ftp.au.postgresql.org/pub/postgresql/ is still only displaying
7.4.0 right now...
Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Send the details to webmaster@ so that the guys can add it to the database
... but, how are you mirroring? All official mirrors use rsync, and they
are auto-added to the list of mirrors, and updated nightly ...

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[Gavin M. Roy]

http://mirror.ehpg.net/postgresql/ doesn't suck ;-) But I'm partial.

http://mirror.ehpg.net/postgresql/source/v7.4.1/ is a direct URL.

Gavin

Robert Treat wrote:

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 13:39, Dan Vande More wrote:

Hey list, I'm just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a mirror that doesn't suck.

I generally don't do alot with postgres other than downloading and installing the newest releases.
Everytime there is a release, it takes forever for it to show up on an ftp server.
This is in the case that the ftp server even works. Now in a case where one likes to browse with the browser of their choice, it totally blows because it's _so_ slow.

So is there maybe an http download somewhere? Or an FTP site that doesn't give me an "directory doesn't exist" error, or one that has more than 15k available, or one that maybe has the newest releases(7.4.1)? All of those would be perfect...

Dan

So this is how not to write an email asking people for help, seriously.
I just checked the first 5 mirror sites on the ftp mirrors page and
everyone of them had the latest code under pub/source/v7.4.1/ (or
something similar). What might have been a more helpful email would be
to point out that the ftp site are still showing 7.4.0 in the main
directory and the directory for latest is also pointing to 7.4.0, both
should be updated to 7.4.1. You might have also included a list of the
mirror sites you were having trouble with so problems with those sites
could be tracked down easier. You might also want to CC
we*******@postgresql.org as well as posting to the -general list.

Oh, and for future reference you can download via http at
http://developer.postgresql.org/ftpsite/, and also at the sourceforge
site http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql/ (though I hesitate to
mention it because I haven't uploaded 7.4.1 there quite yet...)

I hope this helps.

Robert Treat

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[Brian Hirt]

Dave,

I can go about setting up a web mirror, but i cannot offer a download
mirror if we have to use ftp. Our security policies are not to allow
ftp access. It's just one more thing to worry about if we open up our
firewall. I hope you understand. Will it be a problem only offer the
web mirror? We have a 10mbit/sec connection, but probably wouldn't
want postgresql to take up more than 1mbit/sec on average. we also
have several free gigabytes of disk.

Best Regards,

Brian Hirt

On Dec 24, 2003, at 4:46 PM, Dave Page wrote:

It's rumoured that Brian Hirt once said:

What type bandwidth can you
expect to use if you become a mirror (1meg/sec? more less?)

I honestly couldn't say, but I would suspect it would be a *lot* less
than
that. Whilst PostgreSQL is popular, the type of application that it is
means that it will never get anything remotely like the level of
downloads
of say, Mozilla or OpenOffice.

Also are
http mirrors acceptable?

Currently only to mirror the web content (this is mainly because the
mirror code expects an ftp mirror to use ftp and a web mirror to use
http
- changing this would require a fair bit of recoding).

I would like to offer up one of our servers
on mobygames.com because I love postgresql and it would be a way to
help out a bit, but I don't really know enough about the requirements
right now.

Who should i talk to?

Me please. I'll need your server IP, and the IP of whatever boxes will
be
used to rsync the content. For web mirrors you must be able to setup a
virtual host, for ftp, I alsoneed to know the path to the content (eg.
/pub/postgresql/)

However, there are already 7 US mirrors.

There's closer to 20, but most are not active :-(

Regards, Dave.

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[Dave Page]

It's rumoured that Brian Hirt once said:

What type bandwidth can you
expect to use if you become a mirror (1meg/sec? more less?)
I honestly couldn't say, but I would suspect it would be a *lot* less than
that. Whilst PostgreSQL is popular, the type of application that it is
means that it will never get anything remotely like the level of downloads
of say, Mozilla or OpenOffice. Also are
http mirrors acceptable?
Currently only to mirror the web content (this is mainly because the
mirror code expects an ftp mirror to use ftp and a web mirror to use http
- changing this would require a fair bit of recoding). I would like to offer up one of our servers
on mobygames.com because I love postgresql and it would be a way to
help out a bit, but I don't really know enough about the requirements
right now.

Who should i talk to?
Me please. I'll need your server IP, and the IP of whatever boxes will be
used to rsync the content. For web mirrors you must be able to setup a
virtual host, for ftp, I alsoneed to know the path to the content (eg.
/pub/postgresql/) However, there are already 7 US mirrors.

There's closer to 20, but most are not active :-(

Regards, Dave.

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