Best Method using PHP & HTML ??

James

What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both
PHP and HTML ?

<HTML>
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
<?PHP
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
?>

</HTML>
OR

<?PHP
Echo "BLA"
Echo "BLA"
Echo "BLA"
Echo "BLA"
?>

OR

<?
Print "BLA"
Print "BLA"
Print "BLA"
Print "BLA"
?>

Thanks

Jul 16 '05 #1

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Jamie Wright

> What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both

PHP and HTML ?

There are a number of different ways of doing this, and I think your choice
really depends on how you would like to do it. My personal favourite is not
to include any HTML at all and just create PHP variables that contain my
HTML. Then at teh end of teh document I just use echo $output; This wouldn't
work so well in cases where you want to flush the output back to the user as
the script is being processed, but for short scripts this works well for me.

Jamie

Jul 16 '05 #2

Ian.H [dS]

James wrote:
What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both
PHP and HTML ?
If you are a programmer then you are probably happier staying
inside the php tags and using print/echo to generate your HTML.

I work differently. I write the bulk of my code at the top of the
document then drop out of the php tags to output the html with as
little php in there as possible. This lets me hand a rough but
functional document to my colleague who styles and polishes it in
DreamWeaver. If you take this a step further you can include the
html to allow
alternative languages / representations.

<?php include('library.inc');

loadobject($_REQUEST['id']);
?>
<html>
<body>
<?=object['id']?>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
</body>
</html>

And if the server is configured for XML (ie: short tags disabled)
this would fall over.

The biggest thing to strike me here for this example, was that you
use '<?php' for the initial instance, yet '<?' for the second.

One of the biggest parts of coding, is style and consistency =)

Regards,

Ian

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Jul 16 '05 #3

Allodoxaphobia

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC), James @ nothere.com (James) hath writ:

What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both
PHP and HTML ?

Jul 16 '05 #4

Zach Nakaska

James wrote:

What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both
PHP and HTML ?

<HTML>
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
<?PHP
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
BLA
?>

</HTML>
OR

<?PHP
Echo "BLA"
Echo "BLA"
Echo "BLA"
Echo "BLA"
?>

OR

<?
Print "BLA"
Print "BLA"
Print "BLA"
Print "BLA"
?>

Thanks

If you needed to output a lot of variables in the HTML, then I would suggest
echo. However, if it were only a few, then you could do:

<?
$variable = "value";
?>
<html><head></head><body>
<b><?= $variable ?></b>
</body></html>

--
Regards,
Zach Nakaska

Jul 16 '05 #5

Joshua Ghiloni

Zach Nakaska wrote:

If you needed to output a lot of variables in the HTML, then I would suggest
echo.

Based on what? If you're talking about readability of code, I agree
wholeheartedly. However, it says somewhere on the PHP site (though I
don't have time to look right now to cite my source) that escaping into
HTML (or, out of PHP, depending on your perspective) to print static
text is actually faster than echoing it.

Jul 16 '05 #6

Paul Liversidge

Kevin Thorpe <ke***@pricetrak.com> wrote in message news:<3f***********************@news.easynet.co.uk >...

James wrote:
What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both
PHP and HTML ?

I work differently. I write the bulk of my code at the top of the
document then drop out of the php tags to output the html with as little
php in there as possible. This lets me hand a rough but functional
document to my colleague who styles and polishes it in DreamWeaver. If
you take this a step further you can include the html to allow
alternative languages / representations.

My PHP "style" has evolved over a couple of years and it's taken on
this form with all the algorithm stuff at the top of the page before
the <head>. I then just drop in small bits of PHP in the HTML.

Using PHP to echo complex HTML is painful as you end up escaping all
the " and having 50 lines of $html .= "" is time consuming and the
layout is more fixed. If you stick to HTML you can still edit the
layout with Dreamweaver and I even use PHP to show/hide blocks of
HTML, i.e

<?
if ($displaythis) {
?>
<table ...
.... <td><?=$message?></td>
</table>
<?
} else {
?>
<table ...
.... <td><?=$message?></td>
</table>
<?
}
?>

This makes the whole process so much easier and seems to be the best
balance of HTML editability (with Dreamweaver) and power of PHP.

Jul 16 '05 #7

Nigel Dunn

James wrote:

What is the best method for creating a Web Page that uses both
PHP and HTML ?

I agree with both of the others that it all comes down to personal
style. I usually have my main pages as pure php control structures that
include various html files for outputing the data. This means that you
can open up both files in something like dreamweaver and edit them
independantly. Depends on the site, depends on your style.

Jul 16 '05 #8

Rob Allen

In message <bf**************************@posting.google.com >, Paul
Liversidge <pa*************@hotmail.com> writes

Using PHP to echo complex HTML is painful as you end up escaping all
the " and having 50 lines of $html .= "" is time consuming and the
layout is more fixed.
That's what

echo <<<EOT


EOT;

is for :)
If you stick to HTML you can still edit the layout with Dreamweaver and
I even use PHP to show/hide blocks of HTML, i.e

I do this too - the designers here use Dreamweaver and so I code my
pages to enable them to make amends without needing my input.

Rob...

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Jul 16 '05 #9

David Mackenzie

On 30 Jun 2003 14:35:27 -0700, pa*************@hotmail.com (Paul
Liversidge) wrote:

Kevin Thorpe <ke***@pricetrak.com> wrote in message news:<3f***********************@news.easynet.co.uk >... Using PHP to echo complex HTML is painful as you end up escaping all
the " and having 50 lines of $html .= "" is time consuming and the
layout is more fixed.
That's why I use ' instead of " for HTML attributes.
If you stick to HTML you can still edit the
layout with Dreamweaver and I even use PHP to show/hide blocks of
HTML, i.e

I use CSS for layout which keeps the HTML simple and therefore my PHP,
too.

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David (please modify address to david@ before replying!)

Jul 16 '05 #10

Ian.H [dS]

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Whilst lounging around on Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:16:03 +0100, David
Mackenzie <dc*@tarbrax.freeserve.co.uk> amazingly managed to produce
the following with their Etch-A-Sketch:

On 30 Jun 2003 14:35:27 -0700, pa*************@hotmail.com (Paul
Liversidge) wrote:
Kevin Thorpe <ke***@pricetrak.com> wrote in message
news:<3f***********************@news.easynet.co.u k>...
Using PHP to echo complex HTML is painful as you end up escaping
all the " and having 50 lines of $html .= "" is time consuming and
the layout is more fixed.

That's why I use ' instead of " for HTML attributes.

That's what the HEREDOC code is for ;)

If you stick to HTML you can still edit the
layout with Dreamweaver and I even use PHP to show/hide blocks of
HTML, i.e

I use CSS for layout which keeps the HTML simple and therefore my
PHP, too.

Only fools use WYSINWYG editors.. regardless of how code is split up
=)

Regards,

Ian

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