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Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache 2.2.8),
this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent to the
browser".
Respectfully,
Robert Huff


Jun 27 '08 #1
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:16:50 +0200, Robert Huff <ro********@rcn.comwrote:
Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache 2.2.8),
this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent to the
browser".


<script language="php"</script>
vs.
<script type="text/php"</script>

.... one works, the other one doesn't. Personally, I only use <?php ?>.

Besides that, as you seem to attemp XHTML, the manual states:
Note: Also note that if you are embedding PHP within XML or XHTML you will
need to use the <?php ?tags to remain compliant with standards.
--
Rik Wasmus
....spamrun finished
Jun 27 '08 #2

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Rik Wasmus wrote:
> Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache
2.2.8), this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent to
the browser".

<script language="php"</script>
vs.
<script type="text/php"</script>

... one works, the other one doesn't. Personally, I only use <?php ?>.
"language" is not a legal attribute for XHTML <script>. (Or so says
the W3C validator.)
Besides that, as you seem to attempt XHTML, the manual states:
Note: Also note that if you are embedding PHP within XML or XHTML you
will need to use the <?php ?tags to remain compliant with standards.
It is my understanding this means:

When using PHP within XML or XHTML, the tags "<? ?>" will not
work; instead you must use "<?php ?>".

... but I could be wrong. Do you have a pointer to documentation
declaring "<script>" verboten?
Robert Huff
Jun 27 '08 #3

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On Jun 2, 5:16 pm, Robert Huff <roberth...@rcn.comwrote:
Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache 2.2.8),
this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:roberth...@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>

but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:roberth...@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>

"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent to the
browser".
First neither page code is valid. If you copy the codes for each of
the pages and take them to the W3C validator, you can enter the code
directly into a text box. For the html 4.01, you must use <script
type="text/javascript">. Using language only, or at all, is an error
in html 4.01 and all higher versions. However, so far as I know, all
recent popular browsers will forgive this error in html 4.01. On both
of your pages, you write text "last modified --" that is not contained
in a container such as a paragraph. This is an error in html 4.01 and
all above versions. However most popular recent browsers will forgive
this error in html 4.01. So I am not surprised that your html 4.01
page will work on at least most browsers.

For the xhtml 1.1 page, there is a error that the <$xml --- is not at
the top of the page. You might think the validator is crazy, but it is
completely correct. If you look carefully, you will find a space just
before <$xml -- , and thus a space is at the very top of the page.
Xhtml is very literal. Also, when validating at w3c, select to
override the Doctype in your code with the official Doctype for xhtml
1.1 . You will find they are a little different on close comparison. I
never like to copy code from Usenet groups, because too often spaces,
etc get shifted around. Thus some errors can be introduced just by
posting.

It is not difficult to write xhtml 1.1 code after you use it a while,
but very few people serve it
properly with the mime type application/xhtml+xml. On most servers the
extension .html is paired with the mime type text/html. Thus you must
pair the mime type application/xhtml+xml with another extension such
as .xhtml or .xml to serve .xhtml properly. Many people think they are
serving xhtml when they use the code for it served with the
extension .html, but they are only serving html and would thus be
better off serving as html 4.01 strict in the first place. When you
serve properly as xhtml, the page is parsed as xml, and this is as
strict as a mother superior at a convent in the 1800s. Nearly no xml
errors are tolerated, and you just get an error message rather than a
page view. When you serve as html and have even several errors, the
page may still show, although it may or may not look right.

But when you serve a page correctly as true xhtml, no IE browser can
view the page, as Microsoft has never had a browser that can view true
W3C xhtml served properly as application/xhtml+xml. To take care of
IE, you have to use various tricks. One involves rather elaborate
header exchange, using php, with the browser to determine if it will
accept xhtml at all, and if not the xhtml page is converted to html
4.01 strict using regular expressions to remove the xhtmlese such as
self closing tags, etc. There are other methods used to handle IE, but
they all require extra work that would not be required if Microsoft IE
browsers were up to modern W3C standards. Most other popular browsers
will handle true xhtml served properly, although there are still a few
bugs in some, but then there are still even a few html bugs from time
to time. In general, recent Firefox, Opera, Seamonkey, and Safari
browsers handle xhtml serveed properly as application/xhtml+xml
properly.

Jun 27 '08 #4

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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:25:14 +0200, cwdjrxyz <sp*******@cwdjr.infowrote:
On Jun 2, 5:16 pm, Robert Huff <roberth...@rcn.comwrote:
> Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache
2.2.8),
this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default..css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:roberth...@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>

but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:roberth...@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>

"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent
to the
browser".

First neither page code is valid. If you copy the codes for each of
the pages and take them to the W3C validator, you can enter the code
directly into a text box. For the html 4.01, you must use <script
type="text/javascript">.
Not if the OP has PHP in there, and likes that processed server side.
Using language only, or at all, is an error
in html 4.01 and all higher versions.
That tag isn't there when the document is served, check for yourself.
On both
of your pages, you write text "last modified --" that is not contained
in a container such as a paragraph. This is an error in html 4.01 and
all above versions.
Well, true I think.
For the xhtml 1.1 page, there is a error that the <$xml --- is not at
the top of the page.
Check your newsreader/the source of the document. The <?xml ?is there,
there is no such thing as <$xml.
You might think the validator is crazy, but it is
completely correct. If you look carefully, you will find a space just
before <$xml -- , and thus a space is at the very top of the page.
No, there isn't, and it's still <?xml.
It is not difficult to write xhtml 1.1 code after you use it a while,
but very few people serve it
properly with the mime type application/xhtml+xml. On most servers the
extension .html is paired with the mime type text/html. Thus you must
pair the mime type application/xhtml+xml with another extension such
as .xhtml or .xml to serve .xhtml properly. Many people think they are
serving xhtml when they use the code for it served with the
extension .html, but they are only serving html and would thus be
better off serving as html 4.01 strict in the first place.
Very true, unless one has a select audience with XHTML enabled, en the
need to embed other kinds of XML, XHTML is mostly useless

This however, has nothing at all to do at all with the OP's problem.
--
Rik Wasmus
....spamrun finished
Jun 27 '08 #5

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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:06:51 +0200, Robert Huff <ro********@rcn.comwrote:
Rik Wasmus wrote:
>> Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache
2.2.8), this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:ro********@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>
"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent to
the browser".
<script language="php"</script>
vs.
<script type="text/php"</script>
... one works, the other one doesn't. Personally, I only use <?php ?>.

"language" is not a legal attribute for XHTML <script>. (Or so says
the W3C validator.)
Indeed. However, type="text/php" will not be interpreted here.
>Besides that, as you seem to attempt XHTML, the manual states:
Note: Also note that if you are embedding PHP within XML or XHTML you
will need to use the <?php ?tags to remain compliant with standards..

It is my understanding this means:

When using PHP within XML or XHTML, the tags "<? ?>" will not
work; instead you must use "<?php ?>".
Well, combine the fact the script tag which works is invalid in XHTML &
higher versions of (strict) HTML, the obvious confusion of cwdjrxyz about
it in the other answer, and the fact that PHP doesn't end up in the
document, but is a processing instruction, which should be at least <? ?>,
and you don't want PHP to mess with you other non-PHP processing
instructions, I take it quite literally to mean it would be best for all
concerned to use <?php ?>. Besides the fact you can have characters in a
PHP script otherwise illegal in XML, and thus XHTML (&, <, >...)
... but I could be wrong. Do you have a pointer to documentation
declaring "<script>" verboten?
Nope, if I had, I would've immediatly posted it. AFAIK, you can use it, it
will work, but for clarities sake I sincerely believe using <?php ?would
be best for all concerned.
--
Rik Wasmus
....spamrun finished
Jun 27 '08 #6

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NC
On Jun 2, 3:16 pm, Robert Huff <roberth...@rcn.comwrote:
>
Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server
(Apache 2.2.8), this works
....
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
....
but this doesn't:
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
....
"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer
sent to the browser".
Because the former is legal in PHP:

http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.basic-syntax.php

while the latter isn't.

Cheers,
NC
Jun 27 '08 #7

P: n/a
On Jun 2, 5:16 pm, Robert Huff <roberth...@rcn.comwrote:
Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache 2.2.8),
this works

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>

<hr>
<address><a href="mailto:roberth...@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 16:56:19 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>

but this doesn't:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Testing xhtml</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default" />
<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon"
href="images/favicon.png" />
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
<hr />
<address><a href="mailto:roberth...@rcn.com">Robert Huff</a></address>
<!-- Created: Wed Jan 19 10:52:50 EST 2005 -->
<!-- hhmts start -->
Last modified: Mon Jun 2 17:37:52 EDT 2008
<!-- hhmts end -->
</body>
</html>

"Works" is defined as "the contents of letters/Disclaimer sent to the
browser".
I decided that it might be helpful to post a page of mine that is
properly served as xhtml 1.1 with tricks for viewing on IE and other
browsers that do not support true xhtml. See my page at
http://www.cwdjr.net/calendar2/perpetual_calendar.php . To see the
main part of the code, see http://www.cwdjr.net/calendar2/perpetual_calendar.txt
.. There is a php include at the top of the page. You do not need to
use a script tag with this. This include is code for header exchange
to see if the viewing browser will accept true xhtml at all, and if
not, convert the page to html 4.01 strict. The page validates at the
W3C as xhtml 1.1 and CSS. However the code can output 4 different
pages - There is an xhml initial page that you will get on an xhtml
capable browser such as Firefox and a html 4.01 page that you will get
on IE, for example. To valadate, you must view the page code, copy it,
and take it to the CSS validatoirs and input the code into a text box
there. This is especially important for the CSS validator. After you
select submit the date, you will get either an xhtml 1.1 page or a
html 4.01 strict one. These must be validated in the same way. It is
quite possible that one could write code that would validate only in
some of the possible versions of output.

In my discussion post, I saw you used a script tag with your
include.So far as I know, you do not use a php script tag in such a
case and not using it throws no validation errors in the page as
downloaded to the browser. I did not read the tag well and thought you
were including Javascript, in which case a script tag is required.
However, in general, using language will throw a W3C error in higher
levels of html/xhtml, although not in some old versions of html. What
must be including in a script tag, when one is used, is "type" and for
Javascript this is type="text/Javascript" .

If you want to check how a page is served, on Firefox, a browser that
handles xhtml well, just view page info. On my page you will find type
application/xhtml+xml . If you view the page on IE you will see that
it is being served as html, which viewing the page source will also
show in the Doctype for html 4.01.

Jun 27 '08 #8

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Rik Wasmus wrote:
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>

<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
Well, combine the fact the script tag which works is invalid in XHTML &
higher versions of (strict) HTML,
If that's true, then why does that (portion of the file) validate?
(I know about the open text at the bottom; it's a different issue.)
Robert Huff
Jun 27 '08 #9

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Robert Huff wrote:
Rik Wasmus wrote:
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
<html lang="en-US">
<head>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="proj_default.css"
title="ss_default">
<title>Testing html</title>
</head>
>
<body>
<script language="php">
include 'letters/Disclaimer';
</script>
>Well, combine the fact the script tag which works is invalid in XHTML
& higher versions of (strict) HTML,

If that's true, then why does that (portion of the file) validate?
Well, http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/inte...ml#edef-SCRIPT
sais it's DEPRECATED. And furthermore, it does NOT validate. Using your
example, removing the excess error of text straight in body, HTML4.01
STRICT:

Validation Output: 2 Errors
Error Line 10, Column 17: there is no attribute "LANGUAGE".
Error Line 10, Column 22: required attribute "TYPE" not specified.

XHTML (with type attribute in script):
No problem, valid XHTML, only PHP doesn't get parsed due to the fact
there's no language attribute.

XHTML (with language attribute in script):
Validation Output: 2 Errors
Error Line 16, Column 17: there is no attribute "language".
Error Line 16, Column 22: required attribute "type" not specified.

So, if you say 'that portion of the file validates', did you perhaps
mean: "I thought it would validate, I was just to lazy to spend a single
second to check before replying, even though someone told me it
wouldn't", thereby making an arse of yourself in front of all those
people who did choose to spend time on you and your problem, despite the
fact that they neither get paid nor face any similar problem(s)? [/end
very long sentence]

Checking ones own preconceptions & assumptions when facing problems is
often half the battle, certainly if they're easily checked :)
--
Rik Wasmus
....spamrun finished
Jun 27 '08 #10

P: n/a
Robert Huff wrote:
Can someone offer suggestions why, on the same server (Apache
2.2.8), this works
Uh, guys? Nevermind.
To quote someone's .sig: "The truth was out there, but the lies were
in my mind." I cleared out a couple of mis-conceptions, framed the
matter correctly. and the problem went away.

Apologetically,
Robert Huff
Jun 27 '08 #11

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