what is iFrames ?

[maxim vexler]

I'm reading a lot of talks lately about the term iFrame and with your
permission would like to ask a few question about that :

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?
- does all the popular browsers support it (mostly mozilla & the much
hated IE, google says the do but nothing is better that experienced answer)
- iFrames replaces the old frames once used in html to show a number of
pages in a single windows, right ?
- what are common uses of iFrames ?
- mostly importantly does php support iFrames & if so how?, will i need
to use PEAR for that ?

i thank you for your comments, maxim.

[VooDoo]

answers below
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I'm reading a lot of talks lately about the term iFrame and with your
permission would like to ask a few question about that :

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ? Frames split your windows in multiple parts.
Let says you want an left side menu, with frames your menu will be in one
page from where you will call all others pages of your site - does all the popular browsers support it (mostly mozilla & the much
hated IE, google says the do but nothing is better that experienced answer)
YES - iFrames replaces the old frames once used in html to show a number of
pages in a single windows, right ? YES kind of - what are common uses of iFrames ? Same as frames - mostly importantly does php support iFrames & if so how? yes, in fact this not a php issue, php just return html code
, will i need to use PEAR for that ? NO i thank you for your comments, maxim.

no prob, but go on an html forum for more info on frames and iframes
VooDoo

[Phil Roberts]

"maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il>" <"maxim
vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il>"> emerged reluctantly
from the curtain and staggered drunkenly up to the mic. In a
cracked and slurred voice he muttered:

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?
It's an inline frame. Useful for providing frames that are embedded
in a regular page.
- does all the popular browsers support it (mostly mozilla & the
much hated IE, google says the do but nothing is better that
experienced answer) -
Everything upwards of Netscape4/IE4 will support them. Unless
you're visually impaired of course.
iFrames replaces the old frames once used
in html to show a number of pages in a single windows, right ?
Wrong.
- what are common uses of iFrames ?
"Preview Windows", such as you may find when posting on a message
board.
- mostly importantly does php support iFrames & if so how?, will
i need to use PEAR for that ?

Iframes are HTML and have nothing to do with PHP.

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[Nikolai Chuvakhin]

"maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il>" wrote
in message news:<41********@news.012.net.il>...

I'm reading a lot of talks lately about the term iFrame and with your
permission would like to ask a few question about that :

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?
The IFRAME element allows authors to insert a frame within a block
of text. Inserting an inline frame within a section of text is much
like inserting an object via the OBJECT element: they both allow you
to insert an HTML document in the middle of another, they may both
be aligned with surrounding text, etc.

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/frames.html#h-16.5
- does all the popular browsers support it (mostly mozilla & the much
hated IE, google says the do but nothing is better that experienced
answer)
If a browser claims compatibility with HTML 4.0, it should be able to
render iframes.
- iFrames replaces the old frames once used in html to show a number of
pages in a single windows, right ?
Not exactly. "Old frames" remain alive and well.
- what are common uses of iFrames ?
Fitting relatively large blocks of content into relatively small
(and fixed) space on a page. For example, you may want to put
news headings into a fixed-size iframe on your home page.
Example:

<IFRAME src="news.php" width="400" height="200"
scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>

This will define a 400 by 200 iframe, which will display the
output of news.php and a scroll bar, if that output would not
fit into the 400 by 200 area.
- mostly importantly does php support iFrames & if so how?,

There is no need for PHP to "support iFrames"; PHP is not a browser.

Cheers,
NC

[maxim vexler]

Nikolai Chuvakhin wrote:

"maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il>" wrote
in message news:<41********@news.012.net.il>...

I'm reading a lot of talks lately about the term iFrame and with your
permission would like to ask a few question about that :

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?

The IFRAME element allows authors to insert a frame within a block
of text. Inserting an inline frame within a section of text is much
like inserting an object via the OBJECT element: they both allow you
to insert an HTML document in the middle of another, they may both
be aligned with surrounding text, etc.

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/frames.html#h-16.5

- does all the popular browsers support it (mostly mozilla & the much
hated IE, google says the do but nothing is better that experienced
answer)

If a browser claims compatibility with HTML 4.0, it should be able to
render iframes.

- iFrames replaces the old frames once used in html to show a number of
pages in a single windows, right ?

Not exactly. "Old frames" remain alive and well.

- what are common uses of iFrames ?

Fitting relatively large blocks of content into relatively small
(and fixed) space on a page. For example, you may want to put
news headings into a fixed-size iframe on your home page.
Example:

<IFRAME src="news.php" width="400" height="200"
scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>

This will define a 400 by 200 iframe, which will display the
output of news.php and a scroll bar, if that output would not
fit into the 400 by 200 area.

- mostly importantly does php support iFrames & if so how?,

There is no need for PHP to "support iFrames"; PHP is not a browser.

Cheers,
NC

now i see, thank you.

"does php support iFrames" yyeee right, hahaha how off topic can one be.

[Geoff Berrow]

I noticed that Message-ID: <41********@news.012.net.il> from maxim
vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> contained the following:

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?

<starr>Absolutely nuthin, say it again, y'all!</starr>

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[maxim vexler]

Geoff Berrow wrote:

I noticed that Message-ID: <41********@news.012.net.il> from maxim
vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> contained the following:

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?

<starr>Absolutely nuthin, say it again, y'all!</starr>

why ?

[Geoff Berrow]

I noticed that Message-ID: <41******@news.012.net.il> from maxim vexler
<hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> contained the following:

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?

<starr>Absolutely nuthin, say it again, y'all!</starr>

why ?

No reason, it just popped into my head. :-)

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My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
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[Michael Whittaker]

It IS useful, as mentioned a news page oder something like that.
Imagine, you designed a small template 500 pixels height and 500
pixels width and want to display it in a popup window, without
scrollbars.. Then you can use an iFrame to display the news and have
the scrollbar directly next to the news...
Another possibility: you only have html and not php oder don't want to
use it, then you can use an iframe to include a html oder php-site..
professional developers don't use iframes much, but when a
web-beginner comes to me, i often suggest to use that. another
example: They are very happy, when they signed up for a free (ad
sponsord :[ ) guestbook, but they have to open it in a new window...
Ok, with iframes they can create a page and put that geustbook
"inline" with an iFrame (inline-frame)...
Greetings, Michael.

"maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il>" <"maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il>"> wrote in message news:<41******@news.012.net.il>...

Geoff Berrow wrote:

I noticed that Message-ID: <41********@news.012.net.il> from maxim
vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> contained the following:

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?

<starr>Absolutely nuthin, say it again, y'all!</starr>

why ?

[Chung Leong]

"maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> >" <"maxim vexler
<hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> wrote in message
news:41********@news.012.net.il...

- iFrames replaces the old frames once used in html to show a number of
pages in a single windows, right ?

To a good extent, yes. Many web designers prefer iframe over regular frames
because it's a lot easier to lay out. Using iframes also means fewer files.

[Pjotr Wedersteers]

maxim vexler <hq4ever (at) 012 (dot) net (dot) il> >" < wrote:

I'm reading a lot of talks lately about the term iFrame and with your
permission would like to ask a few question about that :

- what is iFrame, i mean what is it good for ?
- does all the popular browsers support it (mostly mozilla & the much
hated IE, google says the do but nothing is better that experienced
answer) - iFrames replaces the old frames once used in html to show a
number of pages in a single windows, right ?
- what are common uses of iFrames ?
- mostly importantly does php support iFrames & if so how?, will i
need
to use PEAR for that ?

i thank you for your comments, maxim.

Although language illegible for you probably, see my site www.westerterp.com
for an example of iframes.
I designed it like that to embed the weblog I run but is hosted elsewhere.
Pjotr