what percentage of propessional PHP developers use OOP?

[macca]

Hi, ive been working with PHP for about a year and a half now, and
have always been able to do everything i need with procedural code and
a nice UD function include.

However, i have always worked for myself (freelance) on my projects
and never in a developmental job but was thinking of changing this.

Is it likely that i will have to start coding using OOP to fit in?
Cheers.

[Erwin Moller]

macca wrote:

Hi, ive been working with PHP for about a year and a half now, and
have always been able to do everything i need with procedural code and
a nice UD function include.

However, i have always worked for myself (freelance) on my projects
and never in a developmental job but was thinking of changing this.

Is it likely that i will have to start coding using OOP to fit in?

Who knows. Do they expect you to be a master at OOP?

You don't need OOP to be a good, clean PHP programmer.
But you must be able to implement other people's classes. SO you need to kow
at least how to USE classes, even if you don't design them yourself.

Re-use of code:
An advantage of bundling your code into classes is that it is slightly
cleaner than a bunch of functions, but not much. (in my opinion)
You can make classes that hold certain functionality you need often.
But then again, you can make a few functions with similar functionality, and
bundle them too.
So that is mainly a matter of taste/experience.

On the other hand: If you take that developmental job, why not take the
oppertunity to broaden your horizons and dive straight into OOP?
PHP's implementation of OOP is very straightforward.
In my opinion they took the good bits of Java, and left the unneeded
complicated stuff out.
So if you go OOP, PHP is a nice start (version 5 of course, not 4).

Just my 2 cent.
Good luck.

Regards,
Erwin Moller

>

Cheers.

[gosha bine]

On 27.06.2007 15:15 Erwin Moller wrote:

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Lets forget about it. I shouldn't write while irritated. ;-)

[Erwin offers a beer.]

Regards,
Erwin Moller

Ok, peace. ;)))

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[macca]

Thanks for the input guys,

I can see the appeal of OOP in some situations, such as re-usability
of code, class libraries and such,

I have once or twice i actually tried it out (for curiosity mostly)
however i cant help but think that it takes l-o-n-g-e-r to code in OOP
and in situations where i have deadlines to meet i can bang out the
required code using proc code and functions (just as portable/re-
usable in my oppinion) faster.

Now before someone jumps in and says "yes, its slower at first but
it's re-usable code" - so are functions.

Ive also read somewhere that an OOP php script actually executes
slower than proc. Yet another factor that could potentially put me
off.

Not to mention the complexity of OOP over proc (i'm not saying that i
can't do it, just that Im a busy man and its not something you learn
overnight).
Still, if everyone else is doing it I'd better jump on the band waggon
or get left behind.

It wouldnt be good if I got that first pro PHP dev job and was asked
to do

"Something nice and easy for your first day - just finish off this
class for us will ya?"

Ha ha!

Suppose I would have learned it all in the end anyway - may as well be
sooner rather than than later!

[jussist]

I'm earning my cents mostly by programming java atm, but do a lot of
php as well. The reason I like PHP OOP, is that you can use PHP OOP
where it's useful, and procedural code where it's useful. So you can
efficiently mix these two, which IMHO is the power of PHP OOP.

I do like a lot of OOP, and started to think, if EVERYTHING in PHP
would need to be done OOP ... what a nightmare.

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[peterdi]

On Jun 27, 2:19 am, macca <[e-mail]:

Hi, ive been working with PHP for about a year and a half now, and
have always been able to do everything i need with procedural code and
a nice UD function include.

However, i have always worked for myself (freelance) on my projects
and never in a developmental job but was thinking of changing this.

Is it likely that i will have to start coding using OOP to fit in?

Cheers.

I love to use OOP in my PHP projects because I believe in separating
logic from design and an OOP approach really helps.

A lot of PHP frameworks use an MVC design pattern and without OOP this
would not be easily accomplished.

It is much easyer to debug JUST php or JUST html/css with a little php
in it then a mish mash of html and php.

Just my 2 cents. :)