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Parsing a php include (which also contains php code) - or "Reparsing" the php file

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Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
....
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
....

/*footer.inc*/
....
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
....

/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
....
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
....

/*lastmod.php*/
....
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>

=============================

I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?

Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!

Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School

Jun 20 '07 #1
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Steven Borrelli wrote:
Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
If the main page is a php file, include will also make the included page to be
parsed by php.
I do suggest you use semicolon after each command, no matter if it's alone
between the php-tags or not.
It's always better to use .php as the file extension on the included files
too, this as .inc normally don't be set in the server to be parsed, which
leads to that if a person gives and url like

http://example.net/footer.inc

they will see the full source, and if you happen to have your database
login/password stored in the file, then they will know how to access it.
If you don't already, it's quite good to run apache web server and avoid iss.

--

//Aho
Jun 20 '07 #2

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In article <11**********************@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
Steven Borrelli <sb********@gmail.comwrote:
Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...

/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...

/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...

/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>

=============================

I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?

Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!

Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School
Should be parsed as long as the include file has the <? and ?tags.
Most of my includes are tagged .inc and it works fine.
Jun 20 '07 #3

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Tim Streater wrote:
In article <11**********************@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
Steven Borrelli <sb********@gmail.comwrote:
>Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...

/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...

/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...

/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>

=============================

I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?

Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!

Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School

Should be parsed as long as the include file has the <? and ?tags.
Most of my includes are tagged .inc and it works fine.
It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.

But .php files should be parsed by every webserver which has php installed.

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==================
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
js*******@attglobal.net
==================
Jun 20 '07 #4

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On 20.06.2007 13:40 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
>In article <11**********************@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
Steven Borrelli <sb********@gmail.comwrote:
>>Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...

/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...

/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...

/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>

=============================

I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?

Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!

Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School

Should be parsed as long as the include file has the <? and ?tags.
Most of my includes are tagged .inc and it works fine.

It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.

But .php files should be parsed by every webserver which has php installed.
You're confusing php include() and server-side includes or whatever. php
include() doesn't involve the web server (unless you're including a http
url).

--
gosha bine

extended php parser ~ http://code.google.com/p/pihipi
blok ~ http://www.tagarga.com/blok
Jun 20 '07 #5

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On 20.06.2007 05:16 Steven Borrelli wrote:
Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...

/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...

/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...

/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>

=============================

I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?

Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!

Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School
Actually, includes are always parsed and your code should work
perfectly. Double-check your configuration.

--
gosha bine

extended php parser ~ http://code.google.com/p/pihipi
blok ~ http://www.tagarga.com/blok
Jun 20 '07 #6

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gosha bine wrote:
On 20.06.2007 13:40 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>Tim Streater wrote:
>>In article <11**********************@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
Steven Borrelli <sb********@gmail.comwrote:

Hello,

I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...

/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...

/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...

/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>

=============================

I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?

Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!

Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School

Should be parsed as long as the include file has the <? and ?tags.
Most of my includes are tagged .inc and it works fine.

It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.

But .php files should be parsed by every webserver which has php
installed.

You're confusing php include() and server-side includes or whatever. php
include() doesn't involve the web server (unless you're including a http
url).
No, I'm not.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
js*******@attglobal.net
==================
Jun 20 '07 #7

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.

But .php files should be parsed by every webserver which has php installed.
All files included with include(), require(), include_once() and
require_once() are parsed as PHP files. This is not dependent on
the filename or web server.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
[Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux]
[OS: Linux 2.6.12-12mdksmp, up 10:37.]

dict, thes & ency
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/blog/2007/0...ict-thes-ency/
Jun 21 '07 #8

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Toby A Inkster wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.

But .php files should be parsed by every webserver which has php installed.

All files included with include(), require(), include_once() and
require_once() are parsed as PHP files. This is not dependent on
the filename or web server.
Toby,

Interesting, because I've seen this before, and others have commented on
it, also. Maybe it was a bug in an older version of PHP - it's been a
while ago. But I had one local cohort who was using php includes (not
SSI), and his files were not being parsed when they had .inc extensions.

Changing them to .php worked. And no, I'm sure he didn't use SSI.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
js*******@attglobal.net
==================
Jun 21 '07 #9

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..oO(Jerry Stuckle)
>Interesting, because I've seen this before, and others have commented on
it, also. Maybe it was a bug in an older version of PHP - it's been a
while ago. But I had one local cohort who was using php includes (not
SSI), and his files were not being parsed when they had .inc extensions.
Either a bug or something heavily wrong on the server. As mentioned in
another post -- PHP includes have _nothing_ to do with the web server,
they are entirely handled by the interpreter. Since you explicitly write
their name in the include statement, you can call them whatever you
like:

require_once 'foo.bar';
require_once '42';
require_once '.o0o.';

All valid.

Micha
Jun 21 '07 #10

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C.
On 20 Jun, 12:40, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
In article <1182309379.784775.138...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
Steven Borrelli <sborrel...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello,
I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...
/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...
/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...
/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>
=============================
I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?
Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!
Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School
Should be parsed as long as the include file has the <? and ?tags.
Most of my includes are tagged .inc and it works fine.

It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.
Not for an includED file - the web server has no visibility of it.

C.
Jun 21 '07 #11

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C. wrote:
On 20 Jun, 12:40, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote:
>Tim Streater wrote:
>>In article <1182309379.784775.138...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
Steven Borrelli <sborrel...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello,
I am using the <?php include() ?statement on my website for
organizational purposes. However, one of my includes contains some
PHP code. Is there any way for the server to actually parse the
include? I've tried this before, and it did not parse the include.
Rather, it included the file as just plain ASCII.
=======================
/*EXAMPLE 1*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/footer.inc') ?>
...
/*footer.inc*/
...
<p>&copy 1993-<?php echo date("Y") ?Kingswood School. All rights
reserved.</p>
...
/*EXAMPLE 2*/
/*index.php*/
...
<?php include('global/includes/lastmod.php') ?>
...
/*lastmod.php*/
...
<?php
echo "This file was last modified: ";
echo strftime("%A %B %d %Y");
include('whateverfilename.inc');
?>
=============================
I would like to be able to parse the include if it has php code, and
in some cases, create nesting includes (an include within an
include). Is this even possible? Any ideas?
Any help is certainly appreciated. Thanks!
Steven Borrelli
Web Developer
Kingswood School
Should be parsed as long as the include file has the <? and ?tags.
Most of my includes are tagged .inc and it works fine.
It depends completely on how your webserver is set up.

Not for an includED file - the web server has no visibility of it.
It's true, the file extension don't matter when you include files in a php
file, but by default a *.inc file won't be parsed if it's directly accessed

example: http://www.example.net/myincludefile.inc

This can be a security issue if you store database login/passwords in a *.inc
file, which you should avoid to use any other extention than *.php, which will
be parsed on a php enabled server.

--

//Aho
Jun 21 '07 #12

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..oO(J.O. Aho)
>It's true, the file extension don't matter when you include files in a php
file, but by default a *.inc file won't be parsed if it's directly accessed

example: http://www.example.net/myincludefile.inc

This can be a security issue if you store database login/passwords in a *.inc
file, which you should avoid to use any other extention than *.php, which will
be parsed on a php enabled server.
Of course these files should be stored outside the document root.

Even a .php extension is no guarantee that no visitors will ever be able
to view that file. A server update, a misconfiguration, whatever --
there are some situations where even a .php file could be delivered
unparsed.

Micha
Jun 22 '07 #13

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On Jun 21, 8:31 am, Michael Fesser <neti...@gmx.dewrote:
.oO(Jerry Stuckle)
Interesting, because I've seen this before, and others have commented on
it, also. Maybe it was a bug in an older version of PHP - it's been a
while ago. But I had one local cohort who was using php includes (not
SSI), and his files were not being parsed when they had .inc extensions.

Either a bug or something heavily wrong on the server. As mentioned in
another post -- PHP includes have _nothing_ to do with the web server,
they are entirely handled by the interpreter. Since you explicitly write
their name in the include statement, you can call them whatever you
like:

require_once 'foo.bar';
require_once '42';
require_once '.o0o.';

All valid.

Micha
When you say the PHP includes have nothing to do with the web server,
that is somewhat confusing.

If I have my index.php, and I have a call to a php include within
that, and also another php include within the first include, and all
the includes have the .php file extension, will everything be parsed
and appear like it's supposed to? And it won't work if the file
extension is different?

In other words, is it possible to make nesting php includes?

Steven

Jun 22 '07 #14

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Steven Borrelli wrote:
When you say the PHP includes have nothing to do with the web server,
that is somewhat confusing.
The web server won't load the included files, it won't have a clue what has
been included, as this is handled by the PHP parser module.

If I have my index.php, and I have a call to a php include within
that, and also another php include within the first include, and all
the includes have the .php file extension, will everything be parsed
and appear like it's supposed to?
The extension has nothing to do with if the file will be parsed or not, but of
"security" reasons it's vise to set the php extension to the include files too.

When you include a php script, see to that the PHP code in that file has the
'<?PHP' and '?>' tags, or else the php code will be treated as plain text.

example:

--- file1.inc.php ---
<?PHP
echo "Hello";
?>
--- eof ---
--- file2.inc.php ---
echo "Hello";
--- eof ---
--- index.php ---
<html><head><title>php include test</title></head><body>
First include: <?PHP include 'file1.inc.php'; ?><br>
Second include: <?PHP include 'file2.inc.php'; ?><br>
</body></html>
--- eof ---
If you run this small example you will notice that the output will look like this:

First include: Hello
Second include: echo "Hello";
In other words, is it possible to make nesting php includes?
Sure you can, there is no problems with that at all and it's justed quite a
lot on the most big projects you can find (see freshmeat.net).
--

//Aho
Jun 22 '07 #15

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you can even leave off the ?in the include file if you like - as
long as you have the <? at the start

Jun 23 '07 #16

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On Jun 22, 10:18 am, "J.O. Aho" <u...@example.netwrote:
Steven Borrelli wrote:
When you say the PHP includes have nothing to do with the web server,
that is somewhat confusing.

The web server won't load the included files, it won't have a clue what has
been included, as this is handled by the PHP parser module.
If I have my index.php, and I have a call to a php include within
that, and also another php include within the first include, and all
the includes have the .php file extension, will everything be parsed
and appear like it's supposed to?

The extension has nothing to do with if the file will be parsed or not, but of
"security" reasons it's vise to set the php extension to the include files too.

When you include a php script, see to that the PHP code in that file has the
'<?PHP' and '?>' tags, or else the php code will be treated as plain text.

example:

--- file1.inc.php ---
<?PHP
echo "Hello";
?>
--- eof ---

--- file2.inc.php ---
echo "Hello";
--- eof ---

--- index.php ---
<html><head><title>php include test</title></head><body>
First include: <?PHP include 'file1.inc.php'; ?><br>
Second include: <?PHP include 'file2.inc.php'; ?><br>
</body></html>
--- eof ---

If you run this small example you will notice that the output will look like this:

First include: Hello
Second include: echo "Hello";
In other words, is it possible to make nesting php includes?

Sure you can, there is no problems with that at all and it's justed quite a
lot on the most big projects you can find (see freshmeat.net).

--

//Aho
That makes sense now. Thanks so much Aho, ... and everyone else too!

Steven

Jun 23 '07 #17

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On Jun 23, 4:46 am, macca <ptmcna...@googlemail.comwrote:
you can even leave off the ?in the include file if you like - as
long as you have the <? at the start
You can leave it out in any php-file, whether it is included or not.
As long as there isn't any output after that. However, I would not
recommend this, as it can be considered as sloppy coding practise.

--
Jussi

Guy calls a government office, and proclaims "I want to be instated as
the president!" He gets the reply "Are you an idiot, or just mentally
ill?" The guy goes "Yes, yes! And I'm old, too!"

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Jun 23 '07 #18

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..oO(J.O. Aho)
>Steven Borrelli wrote:
>When you say the PHP includes have nothing to do with the web server,
that is somewhat confusing.

The web server won't load the included files, it won't have a clue what has
been included, as this is handled by the PHP parser module.
Yep. You can even use includes in command line scripts (PHP-CLI), where
absolutely no webserver is involved. It's always a direct file access,
done by the PHP interpreter itself.
>If I have my index.php, and I have a call to a php include within
that, and also another php include within the first include, and all
the includes have the .php file extension, will everything be parsed
and appear like it's supposed to?

The extension has nothing to do with if the file will be parsed or not, but of
"security" reasons it's vise to set the php extension to the include files too.
Depends on where the files are stored. It's much more secure to put
include files _outside_ of the webserver's document root, so they can't
be accessed by a URL at all.

Micha
Jun 24 '07 #19

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