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is it ok to post job vacancy?

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Is it?
Jul 17 '05 #1
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:01:13 +0100, Gavin J Henrick queried:
Is it?


If it's _your_ job, I have no problem with it. :-)
Jul 17 '05 #2

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drwxr-xr-x wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:01:13 +0100, Gavin J Henrick queried:

Is it?

If it's _your_ job, I have no problem with it. :-)

you mean for our company? yup tis.
Jul 17 '05 #3

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Gavin J Henrick wrote:
Is it?


You may send me the details privately if you wish... well, maybe not
unless you are looking for US talent based in the Mid-West. :) Normally,
in some groups there are specific sub-groups for such things, I have not
read the PHP charter, so I cannot comment (maybe I should????)

Michael Austin
Jul 17 '05 #4

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:01:13 +0100, Gavin J Henrick
<ga***********@operatelecom.com> wrote:
Is it?


No. That's what the .jobs groups are for. Nice of you to ask, though.
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Jul 17 '05 #5

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:01:13 +0100, Gavin J Henrick wrote:
Is it?


Probably not. As Gary pointed out there are newsgroups dedicated to such
posts.

I do have to comment that there is no listing on your company's site
(http://www.operatelecom.com/data_page.asp?PageID=200) that implies a
PHP-related job opening.

I also think it is a bad idea to post information about current job
openings in Microsoft Word (.doc) format rather than something like PDF
(or preferably just plain ole HTML). That's obviously just my opinion
though.
Jul 17 '05 #6

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Gavin J Henrick <ga***********@operatelecom.com> wrote in message news:<WO*****************@news.indigo.ie>...
Is it?


Yet, we don't have any specialized group for that. So, IMHO, it is
Ok to post job vacancy. Anyway, I suggest you to use "[Job]" or
similar tags in the subject line.

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Jul 17 '05 #7

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<ab*************************@posting.google.com> from R. Rajesh Jeba
Anbiah contained the following:
Is it?


Yet, we don't have any specialized group for that. So, IMHO, it is
Ok to post job vacancy. Anyway, I suggest you to use "[Job]" or
similar tags in the subject line.


But only if you are prepared to accept a teleworker. We have
contributors from all over the world. The chances of you finding
someone within commuting distance are slim.
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Jul 17 '05 #8

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On 23 Jun 2004 21:39:13 -0700, ng**********@rediffmail.com (R. Rajesh
Jeba Anbiah) wrote:
Gavin J Henrick <ga***********@operatelecom.com> wrote in message news:<WO*****************@news.indigo.ie>...
Is it?
Yet, we don't have any specialized group for that.


There are THOUSANDS of jobs groups. His offering is likely for a
specific regional area, he should start there. Of course, you could
always create a CFV for comp.lang.php.jobs but chances are it wouldn't
fly very far.

So, IMHO, it is Ok to post job vacancy. Anyway,
And prepare to be flamed for it.
I suggest you to use "[Job]" or similar tags in the subject line.


It's standard NOT to allow advertisements, including job postings, in
_ANY_ comp.group that doesn't specifically allow it. (That's why there
are job groups).

I'm still learning about PHP, but running a news service and dealing
with complaints from misplaced posts gives me a bit of insight on this
topic.

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On 24 Jun 2004 03:31:15 -0700, "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah"
<ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote:
7. We didn't flame you for your looong sig-block :-) (which is much
common in any other groups)
and so on....
The "-- " should snip it on any good newsreader.

And facts...
1. Most of us are dying for breads.
2. Most of us are freelancers.

And my point here is: we don't have any specialized group for such
job postings for PHP; because of that lacking why should we loose such
jobs?

You wouldn't lose them if they were posted in a jobs group.
If I'm not interested in jobs, I'm just going to add filters and
will save bandwidths. Fortunately, I have a small job to survive with
and why should we hinder that job that may help someone somewhere?


Once it starts, it never stops. Once adverts for jobs are allowed,
adverts for 'make money fast' and 'grow your penis' are sure to
follow. Groups that have allowed it to start can't control it.

Need a job? Sub to jobs groups or Monster.com where you can search by
the area of the _WORLD_ in which you live.
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:24:21 -0400, Gary L Burnore in comp.lang.php wrote:
On 24 Jun 2004 03:31:15 -0700, "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah"
<ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote:
7. We didn't flame you for your looong sig-block :-) (which is much
common in any other groups)
and so on.... The "-- " should snip it on any good newsreader.
Sure, but since you seem to be fond of etiquette, the accepted practise
of signature length is a _maximum_ of 4 lines.

And facts...
1. Most of us are dying for breads.
2. Most of us are freelancers.

And my point here is: we don't have any specialized group for such
job postings for PHP; because of that lacking why should we loose such
jobs?


You wouldn't lose them if they were posted in a jobs group.


I for one accept the practise of using a proper [Job] tag in the subject
line. Then it's appropriate, and I for one would appreciate the fact
that people are posting jobs, but it only makes sense for one to post
telework opportunities.

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Jul 17 '05 #11

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:22:08 -0400, marathon <M@linux.ca> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:24:21 -0400, Gary L Burnore in comp.lang.php wrote:
On 24 Jun 2004 03:31:15 -0700, "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah"
<ng**********@rediffmail.com> wrote:
7. We didn't flame you for your looong sig-block :-) (which is much
common in any other groups)
and so on....
The "-- " should snip it on any good newsreader.


Sure, but since you seem to be fond of etiquette, the accepted practise
of signature length is a _maximum_ of 4 lines.


Following standards for comp groups and net-etiquette are quite
different things. Three line .sigs were a good thing[tm] back when
bandwidth was an issue. (aka 300 and 1200 baud modems, remember
those?)

Adverts in comp groups not specifically identified as accepting them
is much more than bad net-etiquette, it's a TOS violation at many news
providers, ours included.

And facts...
1. Most of us are dying for breads.
2. Most of us are freelancers.

And my point here is: we don't have any specialized group for such
job postings for PHP; because of that lacking why should we loose such
jobs?

You wouldn't lose them if they were posted in a jobs group.


I for one accept the practise of using a proper [Job] tag in the subject
line.


You can accept what you want. Guaranteed there'll be complaints to
the ISP of people who post adverts in comp.* groups not specifically
allowing them.
Then it's appropriate,
Posting a tag makes it no less of an advert.
and I for one would appreciate the fact
that people are posting jobs, but it only makes sense for one to post
telework opportunities.


The slipery slope. Who gets to decide 'only telework', only php jobs
and not adverts for code snippets etc.

Adverts are one of the reasons there's a MODERATED perl group now. Do
we really want that for comp.lang.php when people who NEED jobs know
where to go look for them?
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:22:22 +0100, Gavin J Henrick
<ga***********@operatelecom.com> wrote:
drwxr-xr-x wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:01:13 +0100, Gavin J Henrick queried:

Is it?

If it's _your_ job, I have no problem with it. :-)

you mean for our company? yup tis.


He means "is it to hire your REPLACEMENT". Just fyi. :)
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