object oriented php - primer

[Sandman]

Could anyone give me a tip about a good primer on object oriented php
programming - why I should use it, the benefits, the drawbacks, the bugs, the
glory?

And, should I upgrade to php5 before starting to use it (to avoid two
standards)?

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[Garp]

"Sandman" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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Could anyone give me a tip about a good primer on object oriented php
programming - why I should use it, the benefits, the drawbacks, the bugs, the glory?

I think this site has everything you need to know:
www.google.com

Yeesh.

Garp

[MBR]

Actually, I have a similar question, and I don't think Google will have
the answer for me. The question is not how to do OO in PHP. That I
can figure out on my own. I've done OO in straight C before C++ was
ubiquitous. I've written OO code in C++ and Java for over 10 years.
BUT my experience with web applications is that the associated server-
side code is usually fairly trivial, and structuring things in a class
hierarchy is generally overkill.

So, my question is not how do people do object oriented programming in
PHP, but rather why? Under what circumstances does it really provide
any benefit?

Mark
mb*@arlsoft.com

Garp wrote:

"Sandman" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:mr**********************@individual.net...

Could anyone give me a tip about a good primer on object oriented php
programming - why I should use it, the benefits, the drawbacks, the bugs,

the

glory?

I think this site has everything you need to know:
www.google.com

Yeesh.

Garp

[Berislav Lopac]

MBR wrote:

So, my question is not how do people do object oriented programming in
PHP, but rather why? Under what circumstances does it really provide
any benefit?

For me, the reason to use OO in PHP is the same as in any other language: OO
makes things better organized and easier to maintain.

There is to inherent advantage in using OO above procedural or other types
of programming except that it gives a better organization of your code,
making it much easier to reuse, maintain and publish.

Why do you use OO in Java? (Note: one can easily write a completely
procedural program in Java).

Berislav

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[Sandman]

In article <Et*******************@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Garp" <ga***@no7.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Could anyone give me a tip about a good primer on object oriented php
programming - why I should use it, the benefits, the drawbacks, the bugs,
the glory?

I have no idea what so ever, and it would even be stupid of me to reply to
your post.

Garp

Ok, thanks anyway.

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[Garp]

"Sandman" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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In article <Et*******************@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Garp" <ga***@no7.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Could anyone give me a tip about a good primer on object oriented php
programming - why I should use it, the benefits, the drawbacks, the bugs, the glory?

I have no idea what so ever, and it would even be stupid of me to reply to your post.

Garp

Ok, thanks anyway.

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Sandman[.net]

I'm sorry, but the question was as wide open as you could have made it. This
isn't the right forum to ask for such general advice (you didn't even
specify PHP for the OOD part), and I'm glad you got the point I made,
however badly you spelled "whatsoever".

Garp

[Garp]

"Berislav Lopac" <be************@dimedia.hr> wrote in message
news:ca**********@ls219.htnet.hr...

MBR wrote:

So, my question is not how do people do object oriented programming in
PHP, but rather why? Under what circumstances does it really provide
any benefit?
For me, the reason to use OO in PHP is the same as in any other language:

OO makes things better organized and easier to maintain.

There is to inherent advantage in using OO above procedural or other types
of programming except that it gives a better organization of your code,
making it much easier to reuse, maintain and publish.

Why do you use OO in Java? (Note: one can easily write a completely
procedural program in Java).

Berislav

All good points; simply put, OOD is simply a way of organising solutions to
problems. It's just a good way to think about the problems you encounter
every day in your work and this is evident in all the languages that either
integrated OO in their middle age or grew out of the concept itself. I do it
because I only have to solve problems once. When I don't do it, after the
third or fourth cut & paste I wish I had.

Garp

[Jay Donnell]

I've written a couple medium sized programs (~10,000 lines) in php and
one of the main reasons I use OO is to keep the namespace clean. Most
of my apps have done a lot of db queries so you get a lot of $query
and $row variables. This can become a problem if your using a lot of
require statements to import code and not using OO or functions at the
least. Classes are also a lot easier for me to read and use than a
bunch of multi-dimensional arrays for passing data around. However, I
don't think OO is really about encapsulation as much as it is about
abstraction, but I'll leave that discussion alone. I don't find a lot
of reasons to have hierarchies of classes in the apps I've worked on
in php.