basic PHP questions

[DavidNorep]

I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and consider
to study it.Can you please tell me where to start? I visited zend.com
and php.net. What I'd like to know is:
Which online tutorial is considered very good?
Which free IDE is good (Eclipse?)?
An article that describes where PHP is more useful than Java?

[Sean]

"DavidNorep" <av*************@gmail.comwrote in message
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>I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and consider
to study it.Can you please tell me where to start? I visited zend.com
and php.net. What I'd like to know is:
Which online tutorial is considered very good?
Which free IDE is good (Eclipse?)?
An article that describes where PHP is more useful than Java?

I would recommend http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_intro.asp as a starting
point for PHP. They don't dive in too deep with the tutorials and your own
programming inquisitiveness should help develop further.

Not sure of an IDE, but know that there's a ton of them out there and it's
probably a matter of personal preference ... I work in Visual Studio 6,
which has no interface for PHP at all, so in effect it's a glorified text
editor.

Not being familiar with Java, I am hardly qualified to comment on
differences and pros/cons. Have a read of
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9593_22-5903187.html which is "PHP succeeding
where Java isn't"

Sean

[Schraalhans Keukenmeester]

DavidNorep wrote:

I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and consider
to study it.Can you please tell me where to start? I visited zend.com
and php.net. What I'd like to know is:
Which online tutorial is considered very good?
Which free IDE is good (Eclipse?)?
An article that describes where PHP is more useful than Java?

Can't comment on the Java vs PHP question. As far as editors/IDEs go, on
windows I used to work most with PHPEdit, for which personal licenses
for non-commercial programming can be obtained free of charge
(www.waterproof.fr), since I moved entirely to linux, Quanta++ is my
personal favourite.
Zend has a commercial platform independent IDE (Java-based), popular by
many, hated by others.
For people with adequate programming skills, a quick tour of the
w3schools tutorial should suffice, use the extensive online PHP manual
for examples, snippets and explanations of PHP's building blocks. The
user comments often add valuable extra info.

GL

Sh.

[Geoff Berrow]

Message-ID: <46*********************@news.xs4all.nlfrom Schraalhans
Keukenmeester contained the following:

>Can't comment on the Java vs PHP question. As far as editors/IDEs go, on
windows I used to work most with PHPEdit, for which personal licenses
for non-commercial programming can be obtained free of charge
(www.waterproof.fr), since I moved entirely to linux, Quanta++ is my
personal favourite.

Anyone know any good editors for a Mac? I'm considering kicking this
'doze box out of the door.
--
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

[Steve]

"Geoff Berrow" <bl******@ckdog.co.ukwrote in message
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| Message-ID: <46*********************@news.xs4all.nlfrom Schraalhans
| Keukenmeester contained the following:
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| >Can't comment on the Java vs PHP question. As far as editors/IDEs go, on
| >windows I used to work most with PHPEdit, for which personal licenses
| >for non-commercial programming can be obtained free of charge
| >(www.waterproof.fr), since I moved entirely to linux, Quanta++ is my
| >personal favourite.
|
| Anyone know any good editors for a Mac? I'm considering kicking this
| 'doze box out of the door.

no.

what's your 'doze doing to you?

[Toby A Inkster]

Geoff Berrow wrote:

Anyone know any good editors for a Mac?

TextWrangler is free and very good. Bare Bones Software (who make it) also
sell a more advanced version, BBEdit, though I've not had the urge to
upgrade. (That's the problem with making such a good "lite" version!)

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/
Geek of ~ HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python*/Apache/Linux

* = I'm getting there!

[Schraalhans Keukenmeester]

Geoff Berrow wrote:

Message-ID: <46*********************@news.xs4all.nlfrom Schraalhans
Keukenmeester contained the following:
[snap]
Anyone know any good editors for a Mac? I'm considering kicking this
'doze box out of the door.

Save the environment, don't hesitate! Kick it! One bug-ridden winmachine
less!

Sh.

[Rik]

Schraalhans Keukenmeester wrote:

Geoff Berrow wrote:

>Message-ID: <46*********************@news.xs4all.nlfrom Schraalhans
Keukenmeester contained the following:
[snap]
Anyone know any good editors for a Mac? I'm considering kicking this
'doze box out of the door.

Save the environment, don't hesitate! Kick it! One bug-ridden winmachine
less!

Allthough leaving M$ is not a bad thing, switching to Mac isn't really
that much of an upgrade.....

--
Rik Wasmus

Estimated date being able to walk again: 01-05-2007.
Less then a week, hurray!

[Geoff Berrow]

Message-ID: <f0**********@news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nlfrom Rik contained
the following:

>>Anyone know any good editors for a Mac? I'm considering kicking this
'doze box out of the door.

Save the environment, don't hesitate! Kick it! One bug-ridden winmachine
less!

Allthough leaving M$ is not a bad thing, switching to Mac isn't really
that much of an upgrade.....

But they are soooooo sexy...

--
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

[Ahmer]

On Apr 24, 4:04 am, DavidNorep <[e-mail]:

I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and consider
to study it.Can you please tell me where to start? I visited zend.com
and php.net. What I'd like to know is:
Which online tutorial is considered very good?
Which free IDE is good (Eclipse?)?
An article that describes where PHP is more useful than Java?

as far as the IDE goes, there is a plugin for Eclipse that will allow
it to have a PHP perspective. In my opinion, this plugin pretty much
sucks.
I use jEdit and run the .php files in firefox. Baasically, all you
need for php is a text editor, a web server installed, php enabled in
the web server, and a browser. (try XAMPP)

[Rik]

Ahmer wrote:

On Apr 24, 4:04 am, DavidNorep <[e-mail]:

>I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and consider
to study it.Can you please tell me where to start? I visited zend.com
and php.net. What I'd like to know is:
Which online tutorial is considered very good?
Which free IDE is good (Eclipse?)?
An article that describes where PHP is more useful than Java?

as far as the IDE goes, there is a plugin for Eclipse that will allow
it to have a PHP perspective. In my opinion, this plugin pretty much
sucks.

Being build with Java, the suckiness is pretty much inherent... I've
been forced to use it for some freelance detac work lately. Let's just
say I'm not amused.

(Doh! THe OP is a Java programmer... Nothing personal, just my personal
perspective on Java :P).

I use jEdit and run the .php files in firefox. Baasically, all you
need for php is a text editor, a web server installed, php enabled in
the web server, and a browser. (try XAMPP)

Yup, allthough I use UltraEdit (payware), it's basically just a text
editor, and everything else can be done with 'normal' software.
Allthough syntax highlighting an the ability to map keys to usefull
tools (for instance 'php -l <name_of_file>', saves a lot of time
reloading browserwindows again and again) cannot be underestimated.

--
Rik Wasmus

Estimated date being able to walk again: 01-05-2007.
Less then a week, hurray!

[Toby A Inkster]

Rik wrote:

Allthough leaving M$ is not a bad thing, switching to Mac isn't really
that much of an upgrade.....

It most certainly is... a clean, polished OS, with UNIX underneath.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/
Geek of ~ HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python*/Apache/Linux

* = I'm getting there!

[JussiJ]

On Apr 24, 6:04 pm, DavidNorep <[e-mail]:

I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and
consider to study it.Can you please tell me where to start?

IMHO the PHP SDK Documentation in extended CHM help format
is a nice to have:

http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9

Cheers Jussi

[Ravi]

On Apr 24, 1:04 pm, DavidNorep <[e-mail]:

I am a Java programmer who do not know anything about PHP and consider
to study it.Can you please tell me where to start? I visited zend.com
and php.net. What I'd like to know is:
Which online tutorial is considered very good?
Which free IDE is good (Eclipse?)?
An article that describes where PHP is more useful than Java?

We can't compare JAVA VS PHP. If you know JSP it is most like it where
tags and functions will change. There are lot of tutorials available
in Internet and when it comes to IDE it is personal interest. ZEND is
good but commersial and PHPEDIT is also good. When you r designing go
for Dreamweaver.