Will staying in php and mysql forever affect my future?

[damod.php]

Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and
mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

[Sanders Kaufman]

da*******@gmail.com wrote:

Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and
mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

Yes - remaining a PHP developer is your only shot. Don't bother
learning anything else - just stay focused on that.

Whenever a new technology comes along, don't get distracted by
it. Keep your eyes on the prize.

No - seriously, I know people that have made entire careers out
of janitorial work - so if you can find someone to pay your
bills for it and that's what you wanna do, gofer it.

[Martin Mandl - m2m tech support]

On Feb 14, 7:55 am, [e-mail] wrote:

Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and
mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

If you are in the software business and plan to stick with a single
programming language forever, it will affect your future. Just compare
how many years you have ahead of you till retirement and how long php
has been around. Perhaps programming php will be even illegal due to
software patents.

When I was in school, a teacher said blue LEDs will never be possible.
When that teacher was in school himself, he was told there would be no
need for more than 3 computers on the whole world.

Try to learn everyday something new - and there will no need to worry.

Have fun

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[Toby A Inkster]

Martin Mandl - m2m tech support wrote:

When that teacher was in school himself, he was told there would be no
need for more than 3 computers on the whole world.

The oft-quoted statements was actually that there would only need to be
about *five* computers. The statement is generally attributed to Thomas J
Watson in the 1940s, though there is very little evidence he said anything
of the sort. Indeed, it would have been career suicide, given that he was
general sales manager of IBM at the time. (And later became president of
the company.)

Less well-known about Watson was that he was a Nazi collaborator and
was awarded the Eagle with Star medal from Hitler in 1937.
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
http://www.interlingua.fi/iedprefw.htm

This "honour" is markedly absent from his official biog on the IBM website:
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...hairmen_3.html

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[Martin Mandl - m2m tech support]

On Feb 14, 9:58 am, Toby A Inkster <[e-mail]>
wrote:

Martin Mandl - m2m tech support wrote:

When that teacher was in school himself, he was told there would be no
need for more than 3 computers on the whole world.

The oft-quoted statements was actually that there would only need to be
about *five* computers. The statement is generally attributed to Thomas J
Watson in the 1940s, though there is very little evidence he said anything
of the sort. Indeed, it would have been career suicide, given that he was
general sales manager of IBM at the time. (And later became president of
the company.)

Well, I quoted my teacher ;)

But you see, what comes out when people think they have absolute
knowledge ...

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[Gordon Burditt]

>Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and

>mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

If you expect to have a future in the spftware industry, learn how
to spell it.

Think ahead 40 years. I doubt PHP will be around. I have my doubts
about the web and IPv12, also. Programming may be coded at a low
level in DNA sequences, and you might really die from catching a
computer virus.

Don't follow the example of the Microsoft Certified Reboot Engineer.
(The advanced degree holders can reboot without the mouse). Lots
of people do their own reboots now. So can some chimps. Sometimes
the system even does it by itself.

[Dr. No]

da*******@gmail.com wrote:

Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and
mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

Software engineers live and die on their knowledge. PHP is great. I love working
with PHP. However, it is a niche language in a lot of ways. Most PHP development
is done on small to medium applications. Larger corporations tend to use Java
and .Net for their big projects. Some of this is due to FUD, but there are
legitimate reasons for using Java or .Net for enterprise applications. On the
other end, Ruby on Rails may be a better choice for quick and dirty
applications. I plan on learning bot Java and Ruby this year to expand my
marketability. That doesn't mean that I'm going to stop using PHP, or advocating
for its use when I think its a better choice. However, the next time I have a
100k per year gig staring me in the face, and the only thing standing between me
and the work is knowing a second or third server side language, I don't want it
to be an issue.

[OmegaJunior]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:55:59 +0100, <da*******@gmail.comwrote:

Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and
mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

I know Basic (Visual Basic, .Net, VB Script (as in ASP), VBA (for
applications like code behind MS Office applications)), PHP, ColdFusion,
Javascript, Apple Script, C++, (X)HTML, CSS, XML a couple of SQL
dialects... yeah I'd say broadening one's horizon is a positive
development that can land you a job beyond one's current perspective.

However... expanding one's abilities also sacrifices the expertise in any
single one of those abilities. Time spent to learn can be spent only once.
Which do you prefer? Being a specialist in two or three languages, or
being an allround programmer that can pick up any language thrown at them?

One of my colleagues claims it generally takes about 11 weeks for an
experienced programmer to get comfortable with a new language. Summer
school, anyone?

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[Jerry Stuckle]

OmegaJunior wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:55:59 +0100, <da*******@gmail.comwrote:

>Iam a php/mysql developer. I wanna know whether staying in php and
mysql forever would affect my future. Most s/w people are in either
java or dotnet. Iam novice in both of them. I love php and i dont
wanna shift from it. Please tell me whether staying as a php developer
is good enough to have a settled future in spftware industry. Pro's
and Con's respected.

I know Basic (Visual Basic, .Net, VB Script (as in ASP), VBA (for
applications like code behind MS Office applications)), PHP, ColdFusion,
Javascript, Apple Script, C++, (X)HTML, CSS, XML a couple of SQL
dialects... yeah I'd say broadening one's horizon is a positive
development that can land you a job beyond one's current perspective.

However... expanding one's abilities also sacrifices the expertise in
any single one of those abilities. Time spent to learn can be spent only
once. Which do you prefer? Being a specialist in two or three languages,
or being an allround programmer that can pick up any language thrown at
them?

One of my colleagues claims it generally takes about 11 weeks for an
experienced programmer to get comfortable with a new language. Summer
school, anyone?

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As a consultant, people hire me for my in-depth knowledge. So, IMHO
it's much better to be an expert in a few things than an average
programmer in a lot of languages.

And from years of doing corporate training, it takes a lot longer than
11 weeks. I can teach you the basics of most languages in a week -
including C, C++, Java, PHP and others.

But it takes a year or so of constant use to become truly proficient at
it, even for an experience programmer. At 11 weeks you'll still be
spending more time with your nose in the manual than actually writing code.

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