Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
32  2811 
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote... Hello everybody,
Hi, Dr. Nick!
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
Which platform?
The best one without a doubt is Zend Studio, but it's quite pricey. It has
increadible debugging and code analysis features. PHPEdit is free, but not
as stable and feature-packed as Zend.
Personally, I prefer Dreamweaver because I also use it to design my pages.
It has PHP code coloring, code hints, an integrated reference and a lot of
automation for quick-and-dirty PHP work so it allows me to do all of my work
(design/develop) in one IDE. Downside is that it isn't available for Linux,
and the Mac version is such a processor hog that it renders the program
completely unusable. Windows version is great though.
..soma
My platform is Windows 98
Bernard
"somaBoy MX" <no**@nonesuch.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
40**********************@news.skynet.be... "Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote...
Hello everybody,
Hi, Dr. Nick!
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between
those tools.
Which platform?
The best one without a doubt is Zend Studio, but it's quite pricey. It has
increadible debugging and code analysis features. PHPEdit is free, but not
as stable and feature-packed as Zend.
Personally, I prefer Dreamweaver because I also use it to design my pages.
It has PHP code coloring, code hints, an integrated reference and a lot of
automation for quick-and-dirty PHP work so it allows me to do all of my
work (design/develop) in one IDE. Downside is that it isn't available for
Linux, and the Mac version is such a processor hog that it renders the program
completely unusable. Windows version is great though.
.soma
My platform is Windows XP. I use PHPEdit from www.phpedit.net. The current
version is quite stable. It has all the features I need plus an interactive
debugger. An editor without a debugger is like a car without wheels.
--
Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote in message
news:40**********************@news.skynet.be... My platform is Windows 98
Bernard
"somaBoy MX" <no**@nonesuch.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
40**********************@news.skynet.be... "Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote...
Hello everybody,
Hi, Dr. Nick!
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those tools.
Which platform?
The best one without a doubt is Zend Studio, but it's quite pricey. It
has increadible debugging and code analysis features. PHPEdit is free, but
not as stable and feature-packed as Zend.
Personally, I prefer Dreamweaver because I also use it to design my
pages. It has PHP code coloring, code hints, an integrated reference and a lot
of automation for quick-and-dirty PHP work so it allows me to do all of my
work (design/develop) in one IDE. Downside is that it isn't available for
Linux, and the Mac version is such a processor hog that it renders the program
completely unusable. Windows version is great though.
.soma
Bernard Koninckx wrote: Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Editplus is my favourite. It's a general IDE, it has PHP highlighting,
it can autocomplete if you wish (although, personally I find
autocompletions quite annoying). FTP upload server built in for quick
live-site changes (ctrl+alt+s, click == file uploaded). Has HTML
component icons etc.
Also PHP.net have a extended CHM documentation release. The CHM
integrates (loosely) with editplus (as well as a number of other IDE's),
so ctrl+1 can bring up the full documentation with user contributed
comments.
If your starting off installing something like EasyPHP (apache/mysql/php
all in one automated install) and using editplus to build test projects
in the www root is a real nice way to get instant feedback (ctrl+b
brings up a browser looking at the processed site) Everythings local, so
it's ideal for laptop or string and cup connections...
HTH
--
Anthony Plunkett
"If we can't play God, who will?"
Try Komodo
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:40**********************@news.skynet.be... Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
There are not many IDE (I mean RAD) for PHP. The one I tried id CodeCharge1,
but it was a pain because you can't edit generated code inside IDE, this
means if you edit generated code with another editor, next generation will
erase your changes. New version (code charge studio) has not this drawback,
but I did not tried it yet.
On Windows, PHPEdit is the best 'free' editor I tried. I tried also Maguma
Studio and PHPEd. PHPEd has no free version, but it is the one the debugger
works best. With Maguma and PHPedit, it is a pain to do multipage debugging.
It works more or less, after reading each IDE forum, whereas with PHPEd it
works as soon you installed it. Also PHPed has its internal web server, so
debugging occurs inside the IDE, whereas with other two you have to swith
from IDE to browser.
Although three IDE shares the same debugger, it not equally implemented.
Maguma studio is the worst. Its debugger is useless, because it displays
only simple level variables. For arrays, it displays only 'Array', great
:-( . In a later version, they claimed this was fixed, but they simply
displayed on one line the whole content of the array, unreadable, and need
10 feets wide screen to read complex arrays, whereas other two displays each
key/value one one line in a nice cascading view.
PHPedit (0.8) is a little better, because nested arrays are displayed with
their value on each line, except some bugs I found. Sometimes some variables
are not displayed, whereas a 'mouse over' the variable display its value,
and sometimes variables are listed more than one time.
PHPed debugger is perfect for debugging, but is not free without any free
version.
I did not tried Komodo.
Thierry B.
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"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:40**********************@news.skynet.be... Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
You guys kidding?
PHPed is alot better than zend studio... I bought this at educational
pricing, nothing beats it. There is a demo on there site, www.phped.com
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote in message
news:40**********************@news.skynet.be... Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:50:18 +0100, Bernard Koninckx wrote: Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Hello Bernard,
If you program other languages besides PHP I recommend Visual SlickEdit: http://www.slickedit.com/
They offer a 30-day trial I believe and they have versions for many
different platforms (Windows, Linux, etc.).
--
Benny
The editor I use for my php scripts is textpad, www.textpad.com
Peter, UK.
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote in message
news:40**********************@news.skynet.be... Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Bernard Koninckx wrote: Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Probably not the best PHP editor in the world, php-ecplise is a plugin
for the Eclipse development platform. The reason why I use it is because
Ecplise has a great many other features and plugins (like XML editors)
with many more being developed all the time. In particular, it's CVS
support is the most user-friendly.
Eclipse is also very cross platform (being written in Java and all).
Exclipse is also one of the best Java IDEs out there, and as long as my
work includes Java, PHP, XML, XSLT, CVS, FTP -- Eclipse can handle them
all in the one space. http://phpeclipse.sf.net
Bernard Koninckx wrote: My platform is Windows 98
Bernard
(1) Delete windows and install linux
(2) Kate
;)
Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want to
spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will run
on Win98.
I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs from
microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
-Michael
"michaeln" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:c4***********@news3.infoave.net... Bernard Koninckx wrote:
My platform is Windows 98
Bernard
(1) Delete windows and install linux
(2) Kate
;)
Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want to
spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will run
on Win98.
I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs from
microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
-Michael
I use PHPEdit on Windows XP and this does not need any extra dll files.
--
Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net
Tony Marston wrote:
"michaeln" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:c4***********@news3.infoave.net... Bernard Koninckx wrote:
> My platform is Windows 98
>
> Bernard
(1) Delete windows and install linux
(2) Kate
;)
Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want to
spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will
run on Win98.
I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs
from microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
-Michael
I use PHPEdit on Windows XP and this does not need any extra dll files.
On windows98 not XP it needs the additional files.
Jeffrey Silverman wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
(2) Kate
Quanta
I like kate more. :)
Although I will say Quanta has some nice features. I still prefer kate.
But I use kate for everything. CPP programs, Bash, PHP, PERL, whatever.
Michael
Jeffrey Silverman <je*****@jhu.edu> wrote in message news:<pa****************************@jhu.edu>... On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
(2) Kate
Quanta
Sorry but both of them are simple and not very good all purpose editors.
I find them not much better then the famous "ed".
Lothar Scholz wrote: Jeffrey Silverman <je*****@jhu.edu> wrote in message
news:<pa****************************@jhu.edu>... On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
> (2) Kate
Quanta
Sorry but both of them are simple and not very good all purpose editors.
I find them not much better then the famous "ed".
What more do you want out of a text editor than text highlighting and the
ability to type? Unless you want autocomplete and WYSIWYG etc. which isn't
really necessary for PHP programming.
Michael
michaeln <no@spam.please> wrote in message news:<c4***********@news3.infoave.net>... Tony Marston wrote:
<snip> Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want to
spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will
run on Win98.
I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs
from microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
-Michael
I use PHPEdit on Windows XP and this does not need any extra dll files.
On windows98 not XP it needs the additional files.
I also use it in XP. PHPEdit is the best IDE for PHP (IMHO). The
latest (enough) stable version has *many* & *many* good features. It
has all the features of Zend + so many. For me, Zend is verrrrry slow;
but PHPEdit is so fast. Apart from it's nice document plugins, the
recent version has test case plugins and project manager plugins too.
Very useful... Indeed free (but donation is much accepted). It is
worth to download some dlls to work in Windows 98.
As I already said, for Perl, the coolest editor I have ever seen is
OptiPerl (<http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html>). We may not
get such editor for PHP :-(
-- http://www.sendmetoindia.com - Send Me to India!
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com
"michaeln" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:c4***********@news3.infoave.net... Tony Marston wrote:
"michaeln" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:c4***********@news3.infoave.net... Bernard Koninckx wrote:
> My platform is Windows 98
>
> Bernard
(1) Delete windows and install linux
(2) Kate
;)
Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want
to spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will
run on Win98.
I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs
from microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
-Michael
I use PHPEdit on Windows XP and this does not need any extra dll files.
On windows98 not XP it needs the additional files.
That is only because Microshaft did not include those files with the
original version of their OS, therefore it is an OS problem not a PHPEdit
problem.
--
Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net
Which version is that?
<snip> Thelatest (enough) stable version has *many* & *many* good features.
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:03:23 -0500, michaeln wrote: Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
(2) Kate
Quanta
I like kate more. :)
Although I will say Quanta has some nice features. I still prefer kate.
But I use kate for everything. CPP programs, Bash, PHP, PERL, whatever.
Michael
Actually, I use Vim for everything. Quanta has some nice autocomplete
features, is all. (I don't think Kate does. Or does it?)
I must note that when I tested Quanta it, for some reason,
mangled/destroyed a project I was working on! I stopped using it. I don't
know what happened or how, but I'm afraid to use Quanta now.
I realize that is a bit of a contradictory statement to my initial
one-word suggestion, but...well...
Use Vim!
--
-------------------------
| Jeffrey Silverman |
| jeffrey-AT-jhu-DOT-edu|
-------------------------
Jeffrey Silverman wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
(2) Kate
Quanta
In the past 12 months I wrote abut 100,000 lines of PHP for our JAYA123 web
service with Nedit http://www.nedit.org .
Al Canton
Adams-Blake Company, Inc.
***
JAYA123 - the new web-based total-office system for the
small biz. Order entry, billing, bookkeeping, etc. for $14.95
a month. Everyone says "It's cool as a moose!!"
See why at: http://www.jaya123.com
***
Have a look at this: http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...Ephprev_1.html
Hope it sheds some lights...
Original (printed version) contains some comparison charts where phped
beats zend studio 7.8 : 5.5
JV.
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote in message news:<40**********************@news.skynet.be>... Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Bernard Koninckx wrote: I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming
in PHP. If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison
between those tools.
This will depends on the platform on which you develop. For a Windows
solution take a look at Zeus for Windows: http://www.zeusedit.com/lookmain.html
Just some of the features include:
+ Fully configurable syntax highlighting
+ Project/workspace management
+ Seamless FTP editing
+ Integrated class browser
+ Code completion and intelli-sensing
+ Integrated version control using the Microsoft Source Code
Control (SCC) interface, including CVS integration.
+ Quick Help context sensitive help engine
For example the Quick Help feature gives instant access to
the PHP CHM manual.
Jussi Jumppanen http://www.zeusedit.com
Jeffrey Silverman wrote: Actually, I use Vim for everything. Quanta has some nice autocomplete
features, is all. (I don't think Kate does. Or does it?)
I must note that when I tested Quanta it, for some reason,
mangled/destroyed a project I was working on! I stopped using it. I don't
know what happened or how, but I'm afraid to use Quanta now.
I realize that is a bit of a contradictory statement to my initial
one-word suggestion, but...well...
Use Vim!
ROFL, That same thing happened to me when I tried using quanta. Completely
destroyed my entire project and all of its files. I haven't used it since.
Now Kate doesn't have autocomplete. I personally don't like the feature.
Well I better rephrase. I am pretty sure you can make it auto close
brackets etc. for you. But like I said I don't like using those kinds of
features. You might can get an autocomplete plugin but I am not sure.
Never looked.
What I do like about it is the project feature, the way it handles opened
files in the file list, the file directory, and most important. The built
in shell. :)
-Michael
In message <40**********************@news.skynet.be>, Bernard Koninckx
<ko*************@excite.com> writes Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Personally, I like UltraEdit. You can integrate the PHP extended CHM
help file into it too.
--
Rob
I can ask you what platform you use: Linux, MacOS, Winblows, etc..
Then find for the specific platform a PHP tool.
You can also go to www.eclipse.org and download Eclipse, together with
the PHP-coding plugin and have a development tool for those three
mentioned OS's.
They all have the same Look & Feel so, if for some reason you have to
migrate your development station to another platform, you don't have the
problem to get yourself used to a new development platform.
Mark.
P.S. Eclipse is developed by IBM and a lot of complementary parties and
available free for download.
Rob Allen wrote: In message <40**********************@news.skynet.be>, Bernard Koninckx
<ko*************@excite.com> writes
Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
TIA
Bernard
Personally, I like UltraEdit. You can integrate the PHP extended CHM
help file into it too.
Bernard Koninckx wrote: I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
tools.
Although I've read further on that you are using Windows 98, I couldn't
let a thread go with a title like that without plugging: www.gphpedit.org
Cheers,
Andy
michaeln wrote: Now Kate doesn't have autocomplete. I personally don't like the feature.
Well I better rephrase. I am pretty sure you can make it auto close
brackets etc. for you. But like I said I don't like using those kinds of
features. You might can get an autocomplete plugin but I am not sure.
Never looked.
What I do like about it is the project feature, the way it handles opened
files in the file list, the file directory, and most important. The built
in shell. :)
You should try the new KDevelop 3.0. You can use kate as its editor, but
have a lot more GUI features in it - like better project support, class
view, function library view, optional autocomplete as you type function
names, function parameters tooltip when inside function parenthesis, etc.,
etc. It's a big improvement over previous kdevelop releases and works
nicely with PHP (among other languages).
Zurab Davitiani wrote: michaeln wrote:
Now Kate doesn't have autocomplete. I personally don't like the feature.
Well I better rephrase. I am pretty sure you can make it auto close
brackets etc. for you. But like I said I don't like using those kinds of
features. You might can get an autocomplete plugin but I am not sure.
Never looked.
What I do like about it is the project feature, the way it handles opened
files in the file list, the file directory, and most important. The
built
in shell. :)
You should try the new KDevelop 3.0. You can use kate as its editor, but
have a lot more GUI features in it - like better project support, class
view, function library view, optional autocomplete as you type function
names, function parameters tooltip when inside function parenthesis, etc.,
etc. It's a big improvement over previous kdevelop releases and works
nicely with PHP (among other languages).
I have it installed but haven't really used it yet. I will have to look
into it now. :)
Michael
There is only one
PHPed... www.phped.com made by Nusphere.
Awsome program.
"JVlad" <J-********@yandex.ru> wrote in message
news:54**************************@posting.google.c om... Have a look at this:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...Ephprev_1.html
Hope it sheds some lights...
Original (printed version) contains some comparison charts where phped
beats zend studio 7.8 : 5.5
JV.
"Bernard Koninckx" <ko*************@excite.com> wrote in message
news:<40**********************@news.skynet.be>... Hello everybody,
I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between
those tools.
TIA
Bernard
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