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Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I dont mind
spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for VS for
php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas
Jan 3 '06 #1
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:44:37 +1300, windandwaves wrote:
Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I dont mind
spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for VS for
php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas


vim

Jan 3 '06 #2
windandwaves wrote:
Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I dont mind
spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for VS for
php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas

There are a range of products/programs based upon what you really want
from your editor.

At the high end are the IDEs. These include:
Zend, enginsite editor for PHP, Macromedia Dreamweaver 8, Rapid PHP,
Eclipse (using a third-party plugin) and others.

Next we have syntax highlighting editors. These include:
vim, jedit, ultra-edit and others.

Finally, just the straight editors:
vi, emacs, wordpad, notepad, edit

Personally, I use Zend in my work because it supports the subversion
revision control software and I have a reasonable amount of memory on my
system (Zend uses Java which tends to love to eat memory, Eclipse uses
Java as well.) There are some usability issues I have (e.g.
auto-completion getting in the way, automatic maximizing of windows I
have closed) but they are not enough of a bother to make me move to
another editor.

-david-

Jan 3 '06 #3
David Haynes wrote:
windandwaves wrote:
Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I
dont mind spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for
VS for php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas

There are a range of products/programs based upon what you really want
from your editor.

At the high end are the IDEs. These include:
Zend, enginsite editor for PHP, Macromedia Dreamweaver 8, Rapid PHP,
Eclipse (using a third-party plugin) and others.

Next we have syntax highlighting editors. These include:
vim, jedit, ultra-edit and others.

Finally, just the straight editors:
vi, emacs, wordpad, notepad, edit

Personally, I use Zend in my work because it supports the subversion
revision control software and I have a reasonable amount of memory on
my system (Zend uses Java which tends to love to eat memory, Eclipse
uses Java as well.) There are some usability issues I have (e.g.
auto-completion getting in the way, automatic maximizing of windows I
have closed) but they are not enough of a bother to make me move to
another editor.

-david-

Hmm, thank you for the answer.

The one thing I do not like is that it takes hours to install and that it
screws up everything else on my computer. However, I do like syntax checking
and I do like autocompletion.

WHat I would also really like is the ability to expand/implode functions.
That is, being able to implode a function and open it if needed. That sort
of thing.

I will have a look at the Zend business. Right now, I do not have PHP
installed locally, it that an issue? I like to load my files to the server
because then I only have one place I work at. Not many.

Thanks again

Nicolaas
Jan 3 '06 #4
windandwaves wrote:
David Haynes wrote:
windandwaves wrote:
Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I
dont mind spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for
VS for php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas

There are a range of products/programs based upon what you really want
from your editor.

At the high end are the IDEs. These include:
Zend, enginsite editor for PHP, Macromedia Dreamweaver 8, Rapid PHP,
Eclipse (using a third-party plugin) and others.

Next we have syntax highlighting editors. These include:
vim, jedit, ultra-edit and others.

Finally, just the straight editors:
vi, emacs, wordpad, notepad, edit

Personally, I use Zend in my work because it supports the subversion
revision control software and I have a reasonable amount of memory on
my system (Zend uses Java which tends to love to eat memory, Eclipse
uses Java as well.) There are some usability issues I have (e.g.
auto-completion getting in the way, automatic maximizing of windows I
have closed) but they are not enough of a bother to make me move to
another editor.

-david-

Hmm, thank you for the answer.

The one thing I do not like is that it takes hours to install and that it
screws up everything else on my computer. However, I do like syntax checking
and I do like autocompletion.

WHat I would also really like is the ability to expand/implode functions.
That is, being able to implode a function and open it if needed. That sort
of thing.


Zend will do this.
I will have a look at the Zend business. Right now, I do not have PHP
installed locally, it that an issue? I like to load my files to the server
because then I only have one place I work at. Not many.


Not having PHP locally will reduce the set of capabilities of the IDEs
since many use php to syntax check the code in near real time.

In the larger picture, if you use a revision control system such as CVS
or Subversion (with Tortoise on your windows box), then the issue of
'only one place to work at' becomes less important. Revision control
systems allow you to edit anywhere and then synchronize those edits
across all instances, so you can do some edits at work, add those to the
repository, head on home, synchronize with your home image, keep on
editing, synchronize with the repository, go back to work, synchronize
with the repository, and keep on editing until you remember that you
forgot to sleep ;-)

-david-

Jan 3 '06 #5
I reckonmend Notepad ++ <http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net>

Jan 3 '06 #6
windandwaves wrote:
Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I dont mind
spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for VS for
php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas


I use EditPad Pro. Pretty good editor for 40 bucks. Does syntax
highlighting, bracket matching, and so forth. No function or comment
collapsing though.

Jan 3 '06 #7
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David Haynes wrote:
Next we have syntax highlighting editors. These include:
vim, jedit, ultra-edit and others.


Kate would be here. My editor of choice.

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Jan 3 '06 #8
David Haynes wrote:
windandwaves wrote:

WHat I would also really like is the ability to expand/implode
functions. That is, being able to implode a function and open it if
needed. That sort of thing.
Zend will do this.


"code folding"
I will have a look at the Zend business. Right now, I do not have PHP
installed locally, it that an issue? I like to load my files to the
server because then I only have one place I work at. Not many.


Not having PHP locally will reduce the set of capabilities of the IDEs
since many use php to syntax check the code in near real time.


ZDE doesn't require php to be locally installed. If you want full
debugging abilities, you can use a remote debug server - otherwise, you
can "run" the scripts right through zde.
In the larger picture, if you use a revision control system such as CVS
or Subversion (with Tortoise on your windows box), then the issue of
'only one place to work at' becomes less important. Revision control
systems allow you to edit anywhere and then synchronize those edits
across all instances, so you can do some edits at work, add those to the
repository, head on home, synchronize with your home image, keep on
editing, synchronize with the repository, go back to work, synchronize
with the repository, and keep on editing until you remember that you
forgot to sleep ;-)


hmm... sounds like my "holidays" ;)

--
Justin Koivisto, ZCE - ju****@koivi.com
http://koivi.com
Jan 3 '06 #9
I've used Zend Studio and found it good, until I noticed that it
changes the value of your include_path and forced you to reset it back
to the correct value at the top of each php file. Makes you look like
a hack.
That only happened 1 or 2x before I got rid of it Quick ! I've
complained loudly to Zend, but have not heard of update, fix or
revision.

Who wants to be hardcoding include_path and using set_include_path()
when you'll probably have to undo the change, when you promote to your
host ??

I'd go back to Zend Studio, if they resolved that error. It really was
slick and could have been great for debugging.
Currently, I'm using EditPlus, which is cheap, has many features, only
missing a file-comparison tool (aka diff).

Jan 4 '06 #10
David Haynes wrote:

At the high end are the IDEs. These include:
Zend, enginsite editor for PHP, Macromedia Dreamweaver 8, Rapid PHP,
Eclipse (using a third-party plugin) and others.


I second this class of development editor. I used to use Dreamweaver,
but stopped using that because I was no longer entitled to use it when
my previous employ ended. Then I switched to Notepad++ before coming
across Eclipse + PHPEclipse. Of all of them, I must say that Eclipse is
my favorite. I like the ability to have it tell you nearly anything in
real time. When you open the project up, it will flag everything that's
wrong nearly instantly, when you save the file, it will display a
refreshed copy in the browser (in Windows, I haven't got that
functionality working on my Linux development machine yet). And to top
it all off, Eclipse, since it's written in Java, works on Linux as well
as Windows (and I rather suspect other platforms). And it's freely
available.

So, I'd say that my vote goes to Eclipse. :)

- Mike
Jan 4 '06 #11
>WHat I would also really like is the ability to expand/implode functions.
That is, being able to implode a function and open it if needed. That sort
of thing.


Notepad++ does this and much more.....

Jan 4 '06 #12
I've been using Zend Studio, and it does code folding, syntax checking
and some optimization checks, amongst a lot of other features I haven't
played with yet. I also liked the ability to group sites into projects
(which wasn't so easy using Notepad 2).

Jan 4 '06 #13
feo
Just me using Homesite?

feo

"Rich" <ri**@newsguy.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:dp*********@drn.newsguy.com...
In article <YP********************@news.xtra.co.nz>, windandwaves says...

Hi Folk

Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do you have any
recommendations for any php editors I should purchase instead? I dont
mind
spending some money for a good product.

I also have visual studio and I hear that there is an extension for VS for
php. Does anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

Nicolaas


If I'm editing something on a Windows system I'll use TextPad, but mostly
use vi
when I can.

Rich
--
Newsguy -- http://newsguy.com

Jan 4 '06 #14
I think there is listed only "windows" like editors. Hovewer the one of
the best of in all time editors on my mind is FAR (also win32) wint
colorer plugin and avtoindednt plugins added. Shows syntrax and can be
customised. Also UNIX editor "inserted" in mc (midnight commander) is
also very good. And not of specialists did not write any words about
vim, kate, phpeclipse and others GNU/GPL editors. This is very strange
.... PHP come from UNIX world, so editing with UNIX editors is more
commont to this one language. R't?

Jan 4 '06 #15
feo
Actually I've always coded in Win32, and have tried not a lot of editors,
but found Homesite to be what I needed because of the ability to use the
snippets, the action scripts and the VTML language. However, Allaire, then
Macromedia, stopped developing this editor since version 5.5. Still I find
some forum commenting this fact and talking about Homesite as the great
editor for web developing. I just wanted to contrast this opinions and try
some reliable editors.

Than you.
"softm m" <so*****@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:11**********************@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
I think there is listed only "windows" like editors. Hovewer the one of
the best of in all time editors on my mind is FAR (also win32) wint
colorer plugin and avtoindednt plugins added. Shows syntrax and can be
customised. Also UNIX editor "inserted" in mc (midnight commander) is
also very good. And not of specialists did not write any words about
vim, kate, phpeclipse and others GNU/GPL editors. This is very strange
... PHP come from UNIX world, so editing with UNIX editors is more
commont to this one language. R't?

Jan 4 '06 #16
feo
Still using it? If not, have you found a good substitute? I've got very
comfortable with Homesite, but since v5.5 Macromedia abandoned this
software, and there are little things actuallizations could have solved if
they didn't.

Thank you.

feo

"Krustov" <kr****@krustov.co.uk.INVALID> escribió en el mensaje
news:MP************************@news.newsreader.co m...
<comp.lang.php , feo , no************@gmail.com>
<dp**********@news.ya.com>
<Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:54:51 +0100>
Just me using Homesite?


No , I've v4.5 for years .

Jan 4 '06 #17
feo
By the way, sorry if my first message was not in the right place in the
thread, buy I found this truncated, being the first message the one I used
to send mine.

feo
"feo" <no************@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:dp**********@news.ya.com...
Actually I've always coded in Win32, and have tried not a lot of editors,
but found Homesite to be what I needed because of the ability to use the
snippets, the action scripts and the VTML language. However, Allaire, then
Macromedia, stopped developing this editor since version 5.5. Still I find
some forum commenting this fact and talking about Homesite as the great
editor for web developing. I just wanted to contrast this opinions and try
some reliable editors.

Than you.
"softm m" <so*****@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:11**********************@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
I think there is listed only "windows" like editors. Hovewer the one of
the best of in all time editors on my mind is FAR (also win32) wint
colorer plugin and avtoindednt plugins added. Shows syntrax and can be
customised. Also UNIX editor "inserted" in mc (midnight commander) is
also very good. And not of specialists did not write any words about
vim, kate, phpeclipse and others GNU/GPL editors. This is very strange
... PHP come from UNIX world, so editing with UNIX editors is more
commont to this one language. R't?


Jan 4 '06 #18
"windandwaves" <wi*********@coldmail.com> posted:
The one thing I do not like is that it takes hours to install and
that it screws up everything else on my computer.
Take a look at Scintilla SciTE... quick to install. Easy to
get to settings and easy to edit and configure such.

http://www.scintilla.org
http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/
However, I like syntax checking and I like autocompletion.
There's some syntax highlighting, but I don't think there's
any syntax checking. The apostrophe and quote highlighting
is extremily helpful though, especially for writing webpage
code. If there's any autocompletion, I must have it turned
off.
I want the ability to expand/implode functions. That is,
implode a function and open it if needed.
That exists with SciTE (SCIntilla based Text Editor).
I will have a look at the Zend business. Right now,
I do not have PHP installed locally, is that an issue?
I like to load my files to the server because then I
only have one place I work at. Not many.


Hmm...

No problem with SciTE. Tested with FrontPage and
works well if you open a website with FrontPage and
load a document from the website into SciTE. I haven't
tried to run files locally through SciTE, but there seems
to be methods to configure some kind of Run/Compile/
etc for other languages... calling an external process. I
end up keeping the page open in two browser windows,
ie, IE browser and FireFox browser.

Hope this helps.

Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.
Jan 5 '06 #19
Notepad++ has great syntax highlighting for many langs including PHP,
it's free and opensournce. Thers even a macro funciton.

Only prob is thers no replace or find, basic funtions from notepad and
all.

There are heaps of free editors out on the net, u dont have to buy
anything

Jan 5 '06 #20
> Right now, I am using notepad2 to edit my PHP files. Do
you have any recommendations for any php editors I should
purchase instead?
The Zeus for Windows IDE has support for PHP:

http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html

It will code fold and syntax highlight PHP code. It also
has features like project/workspace mangement, ftp editing
and class browsing.
I dont mind spending some money for a good product.


http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10

Zeus is shareware and offers a 45 day fully functional
trial period.

Jussi Jumppanen
Author of: Zeus for Windows

Jan 5 '06 #21
>Only prob is thers no replace or find, basic funtions from notepad and
all.


Notepad++ does have all the basic functions like replace and find..

Jan 5 '06 #22

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