getting around a permissions problem

[Mike Wasilewski]

I created a (real estate) site which has an area that is used by the agent
to post and edit property listings. They have the ability here to upload
pictures.

If the listing is new, it is assigned an ID, info posted to database and a
directory created using the ID to hold the uploaded pics.

The problem I have is that when they add a listing and the directory gets
created, it is uid/gid apache/apache, and this should work fine for web
access, however, I also need to make it accessible to the owner via ftp so
that they can make site changes, etc.

All of the scripts were uploaded via ftp and have the uid of the owner 10002
I think and gid of the ftp, etc. grp which is 2522.

If I try running a script against the directory created while adding the
listing, I get an error "the program whose uid/gid is 10002/10001 is not
allowed to access...etc.

It would seem that after creating the directory I could chgrp it to 2522
allowing access to it from the web but how can I change the ownership to
10002 at the time of creation?

I am thinking that I might have to run a cron job or something to reset the
perms on those files and directories.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[Malcolm Dew-Jones]

Mike Wasilewski (ml**@bellsouth.net) wrote:
: I created a (real estate) site which has an area that is used by the agent
: to post and edit property listings. They have the ability here to upload
: pictures.

: If the listing is new, it is assigned an ID, info posted to database and a
: directory created using the ID to hold the uploaded pics.

: The problem I have is that when they add a listing and the directory gets
: created, it is uid/gid apache/apache, and this should work fine for web
: access, however, I also need to make it accessible to the owner via ftp so
: that they can make site changes, etc.

: All of the scripts were uploaded via ftp and have the uid of the owner 10002
: I think and gid of the ftp, etc. grp which is 2522.

: If I try running a script against the directory created while adding the
: listing, I get an error "the program whose uid/gid is 10002/10001 is not
: allowed to access...etc.

: It would seem that after creating the directory I could chgrp it to 2522
: allowing access to it from the web but how can I change the ownership to
: 10002 at the time of creation?

: I am thinking that I might have to run a cron job or something to reset the
: perms on those files and directories.

: Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

You could use a suid script. Do _not_ suid to root or anything silly like
that, but to a userid that is able to create the directories and set the
necessary ownerships and permissions.

The program that doesn't have access would then call on that script when
it needs a new directory created. The script must of course check its
input to be sure that is all it can be used for.

$0.02

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[Chung Leong]

"Mike Wasilewski" <ml**@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:WJ******************@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .

I created a (real estate) site which has an area that is used by the agent
to post and edit property listings. They have the ability here to upload
pictures.

If the listing is new, it is assigned an ID, info posted to database and a
directory created using the ID to hold the uploaded pics.

The problem I have is that when they add a listing and the directory gets
created, it is uid/gid apache/apache, and this should work fine for web
access, however, I also need to make it accessible to the owner via ftp so
that they can make site changes, etc.

All of the scripts were uploaded via ftp and have the uid of the owner 10002 I think and gid of the ftp, etc. grp which is 2522.

If I try running a script against the directory created while adding the
listing, I get an error "the program whose uid/gid is 10002/10001 is not
allowed to access...etc.

It would seem that after creating the directory I could chgrp it to 2522
allowing access to it from the web but how can I change the ownership to
10002 at the time of creation?

I am thinking that I might have to run a cron job or something to reset the perms on those files and directories.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

chmod the files to 0777, maybe?

[John Murtari]

"Mike Wasilewski" <ml**@bellsouth.net> writes:

I created a (real estate) site which has an area that is used by the agent
to post and edit property listings. They have the ability here to upload
pictures.

If the listing is new, it is assigned an ID, info posted to database and a
directory created using the ID to hold the uploaded pics.

The problem I have is that when they add a listing and the directory gets
created, it is uid/gid apache/apache, and this should work fine for web
access, however, I also need to make it accessible to the owner via ftp so
that they can make site changes, etc.

All of the scripts were uploaded via ftp and have the uid of the owner 10002
I think and gid of the ftp, etc. grp which is 2522.

If I try running a script against the directory created while adding the
listing, I get an error "the program whose uid/gid is 10002/10001 is not
allowed to access...etc.

It would seem that after creating the directory I could chgrp it to 2522
allowing access to it from the web but how can I change the ownership to
10002 at the time of creation?

I am thinking that I might have to run a cron job or something to reset the
perms on those files and directories.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

The issue of permissions with php scripts can be a real problem
when you want folks to upload files. I assume your servers also support
cgi and 'hopefully' runs PERL with suexec (scripts run with their permissions).
It is not "too" bad to have your PHP scripts feed them to a PERL script to
handle the upload. Then permission are okay and security is not a problem.

Have not tried it, but you could also run PHP as a CGI script
and get the same benefit.

Hope this helps.

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