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Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!
Jul 19 '05 #1
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> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Meaning Perl or Pearl? ;-)

The answer to your question depends on what are you going to use it for.

Jul 19 '05 #2

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English Teacher wrote:
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?


Your personal learning curve will be significantly enhanced should you
elect to pay closer attention to your spelling, English Teacher.
Purl Gurl
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Jul 19 '05 #3

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Andrew Shitov wrote:
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Meaning Perl or Pearl? ;-) The answer to your question depends on what are you going to use it for.

"Do not give to dogs what is holy, neither cast your pearls before swine,
or they will trample them under their feet and turn and tear you"

(Matthew 7:6)

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Jul 19 '05 #4

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Cmalltalk ofcrz!

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Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!

Jul 19 '05 #5

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:35:35 -0700, English Teacher wrote:
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Smalltalk would be much better for teaching good programming and design
techniques, and a heck of a lot easier to learn.

Perl would be better for teaching something that would probably be more
immediately financially useful to the learner

Python would be an excellent moddle ground in teaching something easy to
learn and well structued, but with more avenues for commercial usage than
Smalltalk

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Jul 19 '05 #6

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En************@ModernEnglish.com (English Teacher) wrote:
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?


Useful to learn or useful to teach? As others said, it all depends on
what you want to do with the language.

I don't think Perl is a good language to start with. I'll give you two
alternatives for perl:

1. Ruby is said to be greater than (Smalltalk+Perl)/2 to illustrate
that Ruby has a lot in common with both languages and provides more
benefit than just a little bit of both worlds.

2. Python has more users than Ruby but similar features and therefore
might be a good choice, too.

There's nothing wrong with Smalltalk, you just have to decide which
Smalltalk dialect to take ;-)

Squeak Smalltalk is an interesting language to teach young children
the basics of computer programming. See http://squeakland.org for the
details. But Squeak is also suitable for learning computer science at
any age in many different fields such as graphics, sound, networking
or interpreter design. And with Squeak knowledge behind there's no
problem in learning other Smalltalk dialects or other object oriented
languages as Ruby, Python (or even Java and C# ;-)

Cheers
Sascha
Jul 19 '05 #7

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"Sascha D?rdelmann" <ws***@onlinehome.de> wrote in message
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En************@ModernEnglish.com (English Teacher) wrote:
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?


Useful to learn or useful to teach? As others said, it all depends on
what you want to do with the language.

I don't think Perl is a good language to start with. I'll give you two
alternatives for perl:

1. Ruby is said to be greater than (Smalltalk+Perl)/2 to illustrate
that Ruby has a lot in common with both languages and provides more
benefit than just a little bit of both worlds.

2. Python has more users than Ruby but similar features and therefore
might be a good choice, too.

There's nothing wrong with Smalltalk, you just have to decide which
Smalltalk dialect to take ;-)

Squeak Smalltalk is an interesting language to teach young children
the basics of computer programming. See http://squeakland.org for the
details. But Squeak is also suitable for learning computer science at
any age in many different fields such as graphics, sound, networking
or interpreter design. And with Squeak knowledge behind there's no
problem in learning other Smalltalk dialects or other object oriented
languages as Ruby, Python (or even Java and C# ;-)

Cheers
Sascha


shhh
Jul 19 '05 #8

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> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?


People.. check for crossposts before responding. Damn troll did the
same thing in the PHP and Coldfusion groups.
Jul 19 '05 #9

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> People.. check for crossposts before responding. Damn troll did the
same thing in the PHP and Coldfusion groups.


After your suggestion, I checked. I see nothing wrong with asking many
questions in many places. Interesting threads followed.

Victor

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Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?


People.. check for crossposts before responding. Damn troll did the
same thing in the PHP and Coldfusion groups.

Jul 19 '05 #10

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English Teacher wrote:
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?


Your personal learning curve will be significantly enhanced should you
elect to pay closer attention to your spelling, English Teacher.
Purl Gurl


Yes, "purl" is a much better spelling of "perl" than "pearl" is, eh, troll?
Jul 19 '05 #11

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En************@ModernEnglish.com (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<b0*************************@posting.google.c om>...
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!


They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet or C#).
Jul 19 '05 #12

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Leicaddict wrote:
En************@ModernEnglish.com (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<b0*************************@posting.google.c om>...
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!

They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet or C#).


apart from the fact that this is FUD, Smalltalk is very good for
learning even if not used as much as Java or C#, which both will not
teach you good OO concepts.

BTW: who needs this Thread on newsgroups for foto equipment???

Jul 19 '05 #13

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On 28 Oct 2003 01:12:37 -0800, Leicaddict <Le*********@uwphotographer.net>
wrote:
En************@ModernEnglish.com (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<b0*************************@posting.google.c om>...
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!


They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet
or C#).


I see, Perl's dead but Java isn't?! (C-hashed was never alive)

What colour's the sky in your world?

TW
Jul 19 '05 #14

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Thomas Worthington wrote:
They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet
or C#).

I see, Perl's dead but Java isn't?! (C-hashed was never alive)

What colour's the sky in your world?

Whatever the truth, do you have the brains to stop x-posting this
nonsense to rec.woodworking and the photo groups.

Jul 19 '05 #15

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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:18:23 -0500, Alan Browne
<al*********@OBVIOUSvideotron.ca> wrote:


Thomas Worthington wrote:
They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet
or C#).

I see, Perl's dead but Java isn't?! (C-hashed was never alive)

What colour's the sky in your world?

Whatever the truth, do you have the brains to stop x-posting this
nonsense to rec.woodworking and the photo groups.


Oops. Sorry. Not quite got the hang of this newsreader yet.

TW
Jul 19 '05 #16

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I don't know smalltalk, but Perl was fairly easy to move to from ksh
(Unix Korn shell). It's more C-like than ksh, has a bizzillion
modules to do anything from graphics to networking, and is always
updated.

It's current, and quite alive.

jim h
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http://www.jamesphotography.ca

More than photographs: free downloads, prizes, a bit of humour...

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:05:34 -0000, Thomas Worthington <gu***@who.org>
wrote:
On 28 Oct 2003 01:12:37 -0800, Leicaddict <Le*********@uwphotographer.net>
wrote:
En************@ModernEnglish.com (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<b0*************************@posting.google.c om>...
Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!


They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet
or C#).


I see, Perl's dead but Java isn't?! (C-hashed was never alive)

What colour's the sky in your world?

TW


Jul 19 '05 #17

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