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Still need help: Network Vista w/ XP

Red½
2
hello, i still cannot network my new vista cpu with my other xp computer in my house. on Network Connection on vista the "View Map" it sees both computers but its not hooking them up, can anyone please help me. I even dled a new LLTD on the XP, and network discovery is on the vista. My XP has internet but cant seem the network to wrok, anyone have some ideas please?
Apr 18 '07 #1
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Cyberdyne
627 Expert 512MB
Get a router, plug both computers in.
Make sure they are on the same workgroup and run the files and printers sharing wizard on both. You should be good to go.

Share the folders you want and make sure you know the names of the computers for communication.

After above has been done, test your configuration.

Example:
XP machine name: xppc
Vista machine name: vistapc

now if you want to access the xppc from vista hit Windows Key + R this will open a window in the left hand side bottom, type in //xppc and hit ok you should be able to see the folders and printers that you shared.

Let me know if this helps,

Cyber
Apr 18 '07 #2
Red½
2
I already have a router and it use to work fine on my old XP and other XP...my ISP provider said connection is good and they couldnt figure out vista's uncompatibility issue. I tried the run //xppc and it said it didnt find anything, ive been reading up on this forever and everyone seems to have same problem but no real solution. Figure 4 on this website is what my vista shows http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
an unidentified network..when i hit "view full map" under private it shows my vista name, (red)-pc with green line going down to the other cpu name, Chrome..and another pic of what looks like a router but no green line connected to it. I disabled firewalls and done everything i can think of. Any other solutions you can think of cyber or anyone else?

Get a router, plug both computers in.
Make sure they are on the same workgroup and run the files and printers sharing wizard on both. You should be good to go.

Share the folders you want and make sure you know the names of the computers for communication.

After above has been done, test your configuration.

Example:
XP machine name: xppc
Vista machine name: vistapc

now if you want to access the xppc from vista hit Windows Key + R this will open a window in the left hand side bottom, type in //xppc and hit ok you should be able to see the folders and printers that you shared.

Let me know if this helps,

Cyber
Apr 18 '07 #3
I am having the same problem... still cannot connect

any help ?

Internet works fine just no talking between machines
May 10 '07 #4
Purple
404 Expert 256MB
Hi,

can you ping between the machines ?

if you open a browser on either and address via IP address can you see the other machine ?

ie

\\192.168.0.n

Purple
May 11 '07 #5
[quote=Purple]Hi,

can you ping between the machines ?

if you open a browser on either and address via IP address can you see the other machine ?

ie

all so, if you put the name of the computer in the a shortcut (in the target field) the computer ill open the shared folders of that computer.
ex
\\COMPUTER_NAME
this will work in windows vista\

added:

well I've checked all the firewall setting and found something strange.
the ip address on my labtop changes after i connect to another network and then reconnect to my own. this made my firewall setting go out of range. I was blocking the signal on one of my computers. This made my vista computer not see the whole network.

So make sure that all the ip address on your network fit your firewall settings
Jun 4 '07 #6
rocroc
2
I have struggled with this same problem. Although I am able to view shared files on my Vista machine I was not able to view files on the XP machine. The files showed on the XP file menu but I could not access them. After some work I finally changed the "permissions" setting on the Vista machine and was able to access the Vista file showing on the XP machine. Unfortunately, I had another problem trying to get the printer to work and had to use a restore point. Now I have the lost the file again. Right click file to share. Select properties. Select share, Select change permissions. Actually there are several options here. Surely someoneknows how to do this.
Jun 9 '07 #7
rocroc
2
Follow up. I was able to change the permission settings as follows: Right click the file on the Vista machine you want to share (to share with XP) Select Share, select change permissions, select drop down box, select Guest, choose permission level to be granted. That will allow XP users viewing the shared file to access the file based on the level of permission(s) granted. Now I need help with print sharing.
Jun 9 '07 #8
Well I just got a new VISTA desktop and cant get my laptop to even show up in network map. I can ping between both of them! My xp lappy will not show up microsoft web site said DL new link layer protocol on the xp machine and that did nothing.....
Sep 11 '07 #9
I got it to show up in the network map but now microsoft is telling me to right click on it and open but it wont respond to clicks?
Sep 11 '07 #10
Cyberdyne
627 Expert 512MB
Make sure the computers are on the same workgroup name such as MSHOME and run the networking wizard on the VISTA side. Try to ping using command prompt by pressing windows key + run at the same time and typing in CMD then in the command prompt window type ping computernameuwanttoping and see if there are replys. Share the printer before trying to connect to it and make sure the security settings are set to allow all users.

Cyberdyne.
Sep 11 '07 #11
CYYL
2
Hey,

Just wonder if you have your problem resolved yet, cause I am facing exactly the same thing at this moment. Able to see my XP machines on network map but cannot right click, able to ping each other at dos prompt but cannot connect. All firewalls are shut down already. Don't know what else can be done. Any help would be appreciated.
Oct 31 '07 #12
nlowy
1
The computer is running Windows XP and the LLTD protocol is not installed. Before a computer running Windows XP can be detected and appear on the network map, you need to install the LLTD protocol on that computer. For more information, go to Network Map Does Not Display Computers Running Windows XP on the Microsoft website.
Nov 15 '07 #13
CYYL
2
Thanks for the input but I did install LLTD on all XP computers. Before installing the LLTD I cannot even see them on the network map. Now I do but just able to click on the icons. All firewalls are disabled and I even tried with different routers but the same problem exist. ????
Nov 17 '07 #14
cman
1
We had the same problem. Uninstall the Norton Anti virus program and you will be fine. For some reason Norton is the culprit...
Nov 29 '07 #15
Hi,

I had the same problem and installed the LLTD but still couldn't get the Vista laptop to connect with the XP desktop even though the Vista Laptop could see the XP desktop machine. I solved the problem by disconnecting the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) on the XP machine. Click on Networking and select your LAN connection. Right click and click on properties. You get a list of protocals like Client for Microsoft Networks etc Click on each protocal you use for your network and the click on the Advanced tab. You will likely find the ICF enabled. Select the disable radio button and click apply. You will get a warning about being at risk or such but click ok and proceed to verify the ICF is disabled for all protocals you use.. TCP/IP (spelling may be wrong here..) is what is most likely the network protocal you are using but could be NeBUI or IPX/SPX. ICP disable shouuld work for all.

After disabling ICF, you should be able to share printers and files between the Xp and Vista machines.

Good luck..
Phil
Dec 1 '07 #16
Norton Internet Security

I found Norton Internet Security had taken over.
You'll need to open Norton Internet Security Projection Center and click on "View" Network Map (Center, Left Hand Side of the window) then Tell Norton the you trust the device. Whether it's a router or computer.
I was then able to access ALL shared files on the XP machine in the other room.
Mar 11 '08 #17
hello, i still cannot network my new vista cpu with my other xp computer in my house. on Network Connection on vista the "View Map" it sees both computers but its not hooking them up, can anyone please help me. I even dled a new LLTD on the XP, and network discovery is on the vista. My XP has internet but cant seem the network to wrok, anyone have some ideas please?
try to check ur IP addresses if u have the same Format with the pc wih vista
Mar 14 '08 #18
I got it to show up in the network map but now microsoft is telling me to right click on it and open but it wont respond to clicks?
I am having the same problem, did you get yours to open. also, when i view full may, I have solid green line from internet to routher, a dotted line to swithc then a soild green line to my Vista Desktop, but I have a dotted green line from my routher to my XP laptop, any suggestings as to the green lines
Mar 16 '08 #19
NVM
1
ad same problem. read this link
all steps are described in the link except the ones for norton found below.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/6ed24a90-6b57-4f0f-a3b3-e521ae945f331033.mspx

basically if you already have your network setup (same workgroup name, print and file sharing on, permissions. etc...)

it is your firewall that is not letting you access or see your files over the network.

In my case was NORTON 2007.

You must grant access to the following ports
UDP 137
UDP 138
TCP 139
UDP 1900
TCP 2869

to do this in norton 2007 go to
Norton internet security
>settings
>firewall
>configure
>Advance settings
>General rules configure

now you should see a list of protocols allowed and blocked
select the block ones, one at the time click on
>modify
select the tab
>comunications
now you should see the protocols blocked(e.g UDP,TCP) and the port(e.g 137)
once you find the one you want to allow go back to the tab
>Action
select allow click
>OK

repeat as necessary.

it worked for me hope it helps.
Mar 22 '08 #20
hello, i still cannot network my new vista cpu with my other xp computer in my house. on Network Connection on vista the "View Map" it sees both computers but its not hooking them up, can anyone please help me. I even dled a new LLTD on the XP, and network discovery is on the vista. My XP has internet but cant seem the network to wrok, anyone have some ideas please?
My Problem sounds identical. Name of network and computer names match,
I have internet on both, map shows both of my network computers,
but when I click on the XP entry I get Invalid Host Name. TYVM!!
Mar 31 '08 #21
My problem turned out to be the Norton Firewall.
I'm running Norton 360.
NVM nailed it.
Norton firewall off works.
Norton firewall on invalid host name.
As we say around here in LA (that's Lower Alabama)
"You Done Good!!"
Mar 31 '08 #22
I'm running Norton 360 which is a bit different.
I had to create a general rule in the exceptions file
and put it on top of the list to allow the other computer
access through the Norton Firewall.
Everything seems to be working now!!!
TYVM!!
Mar 31 '08 #23

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