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guy

http://blogs.msdn.com/ericnel/archiv...ows-vista.aspx

are MS really saying that they do not have a development enviropnment for
Vista that will be supported and work out of the box, with no warnings or
requirements to disable bits of th o/s from day one?

What do we get from Vista besides yet another learning curve, hasle and
different bugs to resolve?

Guy
Nov 17 '06 #1
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I thought that since .NET v2.0 was "bound" to VS2005, and v1.1 to 2003,
etc., that it's logical to expect the v3.0 Framework to be "bound" to VS2007
(or 2008/2009..).
Therefore, since Vista will release with .NET 3.0, I didn't expect to be
able use it with VS2005. Maybe I'm getting used to being pessimistic about
M$ products :))

On the other hand, I'd expect to be able to install .NET v2.0 and VS2005, on
Vista, and get them to run..... :S
_______________________________________
The Grim Reaper

"guy" <gu*@discussions.microsoft.comwrote in message
news:DD**********************************@microsof t.com...
>
http://blogs.msdn.com/ericnel/archiv...ows-vista.aspx

are MS really saying that they do not have a development enviropnment for
Vista that will be supported and work out of the box, with no warnings or
requirements to disable bits of th o/s from day one?

What do we get from Vista besides yet another learning curve, hasle and
different bugs to resolve?

Guy

Nov 17 '06 #2
Under the sun, there is nothing new. If you want to play on the cutting
edge, you've got to expect a cut now and then. That said, VS 2005 will
indeed run on Vista, and there is newer information available than that
1-month-old blog entry. See:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvis...t/default.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ml/netfx30.asp

You should take notice that "the Microsoft .Net Platform 3.0" is actually an
*extension* of the "Microsoft Platform 2.0" - that is, Platform 2.0 is
actually part of Platform 3.0. Platform 3.0 is Platform 2.0 plus Vista
extensions.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

Any experience you can walk away from
is a good one.

"The Grim Reaper" <gr*********@REMOVEbtopenworld.comwrote in message
news:_f********************@bt.com...
>I thought that since .NET v2.0 was "bound" to VS2005, and v1.1 to 2003,
etc., that it's logical to expect the v3.0 Framework to be "bound" to
VS2007 (or 2008/2009..).
Therefore, since Vista will release with .NET 3.0, I didn't expect to be
able use it with VS2005. Maybe I'm getting used to being pessimistic
about M$ products :))

On the other hand, I'd expect to be able to install .NET v2.0 and VS2005,
on Vista, and get them to run..... :S
_______________________________________
The Grim Reaper

"guy" <gu*@discussions.microsoft.comwrote in message
news:DD**********************************@microsof t.com...
>>
http://blogs.msdn.com/ericnel/archiv...ows-vista.aspx

are MS really saying that they do not have a development enviropnment for
Vista that will be supported and work out of the box, with no warnings or
requirements to disable bits of th o/s from day one?

What do we get from Vista besides yet another learning curve, hasle and
different bugs to resolve?

Guy


Nov 17 '06 #3
guy
Thanks Kevin, I particularly liked ...

Title: Dataset Designer extremely slow on Windows Vista

Description: The Dataset Designer appears extremely slow on Windows Vista.
This is due to a change in the way Windows Vista supports Windows painting
and renders the designer mostly unusable.
Work Around: None

guy

"Kevin Spencer" wrote:
Under the sun, there is nothing new. If you want to play on the cutting
edge, you've got to expect a cut now and then. That said, VS 2005 will
indeed run on Vista, and there is newer information available than that
1-month-old blog entry. See:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvis...t/default.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ml/netfx30.asp

You should take notice that "the Microsoft .Net Platform 3.0" is actually an
*extension* of the "Microsoft Platform 2.0" - that is, Platform 2.0 is
actually part of Platform 3.0. Platform 3.0 is Platform 2.0 plus Vista
extensions.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

Any experience you can walk away from
is a good one.

"The Grim Reaper" <gr*********@REMOVEbtopenworld.comwrote in message
news:_f********************@bt.com...
I thought that since .NET v2.0 was "bound" to VS2005, and v1.1 to 2003,
etc., that it's logical to expect the v3.0 Framework to be "bound" to
VS2007 (or 2008/2009..).
Therefore, since Vista will release with .NET 3.0, I didn't expect to be
able use it with VS2005. Maybe I'm getting used to being pessimistic
about M$ products :))

On the other hand, I'd expect to be able to install .NET v2.0 and VS2005,
on Vista, and get them to run..... :S
_______________________________________
The Grim Reaper

"guy" <gu*@discussions.microsoft.comwrote in message
news:DD**********************************@microsof t.com...
>
http://blogs.msdn.com/ericnel/archiv...ows-vista.aspx

are MS really saying that they do not have a development enviropnment for
Vista that will be supported and work out of the box, with no warnings or
requirements to disable bits of th o/s from day one?

What do we get from Vista besides yet another learning curve, hasle and
different bugs to resolve?

Guy


Nov 17 '06 #4
guy wrote:
Thanks Kevin, I particularly liked ...
"Kevin Spencer" wrote:
Under the sun, there is nothing new. If you want to play on the cutting
edge, you've got to expect a cut now and then. That said, VS 2005 will
indeed run on Vista, and there is newer information available than that
1-month-old blog entry. See:
What bothers me is that the VS team has had access to Vista long before
we did. They should have been able to have these issues taken care of
for when Vista went RTM.

As it stands now, I can't imagine any developer installing and using
Vista when using VS2005 on it will be an exercise in frustration!

I guess I will have to have a multi-boot machine so I can run Vista and
get used to it, but keep XP for my development.

Way to go!

Nov 21 '06 #5
That's exactly what I've ended up doing!!
Now I've got Server 2003 (for my MCSE course), XP Pro (cos VS2005 works on
it!) and Vista partitions on my desktop.
Unfortunately, Vista claimed my laptop didn't have enough HDD space, and
after a day of trying to delete work stuff I thought I didn't need, I gave
up and swapped out the drive for a bigger one.

Funny thing is, I never bother booting Vista anyway!!
___________________________________
The Grim Reaper

"Chris Dunaway" <du******@gmail.comwrote in message
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guy wrote:
>Thanks Kevin, I particularly liked ...
>"Kevin Spencer" wrote:
Under the sun, there is nothing new. If you want to play on the cutting
edge, you've got to expect a cut now and then. That said, VS 2005 will
indeed run on Vista, and there is newer information available than that
1-month-old blog entry. See:

What bothers me is that the VS team has had access to Vista long before
we did. They should have been able to have these issues taken care of
for when Vista went RTM.

As it stands now, I can't imagine any developer installing and using
Vista when using VS2005 on it will be an exercise in frustration!

I guess I will have to have a multi-boot machine so I can run Vista and
get used to it, but keep XP for my development.

Way to go!

Nov 21 '06 #6

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