windows components for dotnet

[Elijah Cardon]

I'm looking at stepping into this millenium's programming by upgrading from
VS6 to dotnet. It occurs to me that a person is going to have to install
additional windows components beyond xp itself in much the same way that you
have to download java's virtual machine every time you wipe your system
clean. What components are required? Thanks in advance. EC

[William DePalo [MVP VC++]]

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I'm looking at stepping into this millenium's programming by upgrading
from VS6 to dotnet. It occurs to me that a person is going to have to
install additional windows components beyond xp itself in much the same
way that you have to download java's virtual machine every time you wipe
your system clean. What components are required? Thanks in advance.

As far as I know, it is an all or nothing proposition. That is, either the
user has the .Net framework of a particular version or he does not.

Version 1.1 is downloadable here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Version 2.0 here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

At either link you will find a single executable, which when run installs
the framework.

There is the little nit of another download with respect to J# (a Java-like
language for the CLR). But if you are not using that language, either of the
two downloads above should be what you need.

Regards,
Will

[Elijah Cardon]

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"Elijah Cardon" <in*****@invalid.netwrote in message
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>I'm looking at stepping into this millenium's programming by upgrading
from VS6 to dotnet. It occurs to me that a person is going to have to
install additional windows components beyond xp itself in much the same
way that you have to download java's virtual machine every time you wipe
your system clean. What components are required? Thanks in advance.

As far as I know, it is an all or nothing proposition. That is, either the
user has the .Net framework of a particular version or he does not.

Version 1.1 is downloadable here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Version 2.0 here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

At either link you will find a single executable, which when run installs
the framework.

There is the little nit of another download with respect to J# (a
Java-like language for the CLR). But if you are not using that language,
either of the two downloads above should be what you need.

Regards,
Will

23 megs, huh? I've always used a friend's computer to test out my
back-heavy apps, usually a friend who doesn't have much by way of platform
knowledge. I wonder when joe windows.user is going to make this same
download as a matter of course.

My guess is that MS can't bundle it with the OS for legal reasons, correct?
EC

[William DePalo [MVP VC++]]

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23 megs, huh? I've always used a friend's computer to test out my
back-heavy apps, usually a friend who doesn't have much by way of platform
knowledge. I wonder when joe windows.user is going to make this same
download as a matter of course.

He will if there is a reason. More, often, a vendor will include it on the
setup disc for a product that requires it. (Just btw, ATI did that with a
video tuner card I bought)

My guess is that MS can't bundle it with the OS for legal reasons,
correct?

I'm no lawyer but I don't think that there is any problem in doing that.

Regards,
Will

[Elijah Cardon]

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"Elijah Cardon" <in*****@invalid.netwrote in message
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>23 megs, huh? I've always used a friend's computer to test out my
back-heavy apps, usually a friend who doesn't have much by way of
platform knowledge. I wonder when joe windows.user is going to make this
same download as a matter of course.

He will if there is a reason. More, often, a vendor will include it on the
setup disc for a product that requires it. (Just btw, ATI did that with a
video tuner card I bought)

>My guess is that MS can't bundle it with the OS for legal reasons,
correct?

I'm no lawyer but I don't think that there is any problem in doing that.

Let me rephrase. Is there any scuttlebutt on whether the dotnet framework
is to be included in MS's next OS release? EC
p.s. I gotta admit I'm a little chicken to run dotnetfx.exe . I'm backing
up my data in case I have to go Noah with windows afterward.

[Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]]

Elijah Cardon wrote:

Let me rephrase. Is there any scuttlebutt on whether the dotnet
framework is to be included in MS's next OS release? EC
p.s. I gotta admit I'm a little chicken to run dotnetfx.exe . I'm
backing up my data in case I have to go Noah with windows afterward.

Windows Vista will include .NET 3.0.

Windows Server 2003 includes .NET 1.1, and I believe that Windows Server
2003 R2 includes .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 (I can't verify that at the moment
though).

The lack of .NET 1.1 in Windows XP remains a sore point for many - even in
SP2, they still didn't install .NET by default (but it was generally
included on the CD/DVD as a separate install).

The reasons for the lack of .NET in XP are procedural and bureaucratic, not
legal, AFIAK.

-cd

[SvenC]

Him Elijah,

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>>23 megs, huh? I've always used a friend's computer to test out my
back-heavy apps, usually a friend who doesn't have much by way of
platform knowledge. I wonder when joe windows.user is going to make
this same download as a matter of course.

He will if there is a reason. More, often, a vendor will include it on
the setup disc for a product that requires it. (Just btw, ATI did that
with a video tuner card I bought)

>>My guess is that MS can't bundle it with the OS for legal reasons,
correct?

I'm no lawyer but I don't think that there is any problem in doing that.

Let me rephrase. Is there any scuttlebutt on whether the dotnet framework
is to be included in MS's next OS release? EC
p.s. I gotta admit I'm a little chicken to run dotnetfx.exe . I'm backing
up my data in case I have to go Noah with windows afterward.

Win2003 has .Net 1.1 included and Vista RC1 has .Net 3.0 included (its
basically Framework 2.0 + WPF (ex Avalon), WCF (ex Indigo) and WF
(Workflow) ). So it is just a question of timing. WinXP may have been a bit
too early to include any Framework. The OSes later on will include the
latest available Framework. Especially as more and more system components
depend on the Framework itself.

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SvenC