directx august 2006

[gerry]

i just downloaded and installed the directx aug 2006 sdk
the machine i installed it on had both vs2003 & vs2005
the visual studio extensions were installed into vs2003 but not into vs2005.
does the directx sdk not integrate with vs2005 ?
are we essentially forced to develop directx apps using vs2003 & .net 1.1 in
order to take advantage of the vs extensions ?

the docs make no mention of vs2005 or .net 2.0 - but then again while the vs
help lists the directx help as Augist 2006, the help itself says that it is
August 2005 ?

is this a problem with vs2003 being installed on the machine and taking
precedence over vs2005 or is directx really that far behind the times ?

Assuming that I have just missed a piece of the puzzle, is there any
documentation dealing with installing and using the directx sdk with
vs2005/.net 2.0 ?

Gerry

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Gerry

Documentation is hopefully not the best part of the DirectX team.

I would just try it in your case.

Cor

"gerry" <ge**@nospam.nospamschreef in bericht
news:un*************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>i just downloaded and installed the directx aug 2006 sdk
the machine i installed it on had both vs2003 & vs2005
the visual studio extensions were installed into vs2003 but not into
vs2005.
does the directx sdk not integrate with vs2005 ?
are we essentially forced to develop directx apps using vs2003 & .net 1.1
in
order to take advantage of the vs extensions ?

the docs make no mention of vs2005 or .net 2.0 - but then again while the
vs
help lists the directx help as Augist 2006, the help itself says that it
is
August 2005 ?

is this a problem with vs2003 being installed on the machine and taking
precedence over vs2005 or is directx really that far behind the times ?

Assuming that I have just missed a piece of the puzzle, is there any
documentation dealing with installing and using the directx sdk with
vs2005/.net 2.0 ?

Gerry

[Patrice]

If I remember, I previously saw that they mention 1.1 assemblies are
compatible with VS 2005 but not sure if it includes vs extensions support.
IMO they didn't spend much time on this as 2.0 assemblies will be finally
available as part of the new XNA framework and tools that should be heavily
integrated with VS.NET.

--
Patrice

"gerry" <ge**@nospam.nospama écrit dans le message de news:
un*************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>i just downloaded and installed the directx aug 2006 sdk
the machine i installed it on had both vs2003 & vs2005
the visual studio extensions were installed into vs2003 but not into
vs2005.
does the directx sdk not integrate with vs2005 ?
are we essentially forced to develop directx apps using vs2003 & .net 1.1
in
order to take advantage of the vs extensions ?

the docs make no mention of vs2005 or .net 2.0 - but then again while the
vs
help lists the directx help as Augist 2006, the help itself says that it
is
August 2005 ?

is this a problem with vs2003 being installed on the machine and taking
precedence over vs2005 or is directx really that far behind the times ?

Assuming that I have just missed a piece of the puzzle, is there any
documentation dealing with installing and using the directx sdk with
vs2005/.net 2.0 ?

Gerry

[WenJun Zhang[msft]]

Hi Gerry,

I have April build DirectX SDK installed on my test machine which is
properly integrated with both VS.NET2003 and VS.NET 2005.

I will upgrade to the new August version this weekend and see if I can
repro the problem you met.

Thanks.

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

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[gerry]

Thanks wen
do you know if installing the april build will integrate with both versions
of vs if they are installed on the same machine, or just the 1st one that it
finds ?
Gerry
""WenJun Zhang[msft]"" <wj*****@online.microsoft.comwrote in message
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Hi Gerry,

I have April build DirectX SDK installed on my test machine which is
properly integrated with both VS.NET2003 and VS.NET 2005.

I will upgrade to the new August version this weekend and see if I can
repro the problem you met.

Thanks.

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

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[gerry]

try what ?
i installed the august release and it installed the extensions into vs2003
and appears to have completely ignored vs2005 altogether.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
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Gerry

Documentation is hopefully not the best part of the DirectX team.

I would just try it in your case.

Cor

"gerry" <ge**@nospam.nospamschreef in bericht
news:un*************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

i just downloaded and installed the directx aug 2006 sdk
the machine i installed it on had both vs2003 & vs2005
the visual studio extensions were installed into vs2003 but not into
vs2005.
does the directx sdk not integrate with vs2005 ?
are we essentially forced to develop directx apps using vs2003 & .net

1.1

in
order to take advantage of the vs extensions ?

the docs make no mention of vs2005 or .net 2.0 - but then again while

the

vs
help lists the directx help as Augist 2006, the help itself says that it
is
August 2005 ?

is this a problem with vs2003 being installed on the machine and taking
precedence over vs2005 or is directx really that far behind the times ?

Assuming that I have just missed a piece of the puzzle, is there any
documentation dealing with installing and using the directx sdk with
vs2005/.net 2.0 ?

Gerry

[WenJun Zhang[msft]]

Hi Gerry,

Yes, the April version integrate with both VS2005 and VS2003 well on my
test machine.

I installed the August version and saw the Debugging extension on VS2005 is
no longer available. Is this just your problem? Please check out the
following comments in Readme:

Shader Debugging in Visual Studio 2005

In the August 2006 SDK, the shader debugging functionality of the DirectX
Extensions for Visual Studio? does not work with Visual Studio 2005.
(Syntax highlighting continues to work with Visual Studio 2005.)

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

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[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

I have installed DirectX aug yesterday.

I could run a C# sample in that in Visual Studio 2005.

Cor

""WenJun Zhang[msft]"" <wj*****@online.microsoft.comschreef in bericht
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Hi Gerry,

Yes, the April version integrate with both VS2005 and VS2003 well on my
test machine.

I installed the August version and saw the Debugging extension on VS2005
is
no longer available. Is this just your problem? Please check out the
following comments in Readme:

Shader Debugging in Visual Studio 2005

In the August 2006 SDK, the shader debugging functionality of the DirectX
Extensions for Visual Studio? does not work with Visual Studio 2005.
(Syntax highlighting continues to work with Visual Studio 2005.)

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

Microsoft Online Community Support

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[gerry]

dx seems to work just fine with vs2005.
I guess that I was expecting to see something changed in the ide since the
install warns me that my tool bars will all be reset when the dx extensions
are installed into vs.
looking at vs2003 I can't say that I actually see any sign of anything
having changed there either other than directx being listed in the installed
products in the about dialog.

so after all that - what then exactly are the directx vs extensions ? just
the managed dll's ?

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:OK**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

I have installed DirectX aug yesterday.

I could run a C# sample in that in Visual Studio 2005.

Cor

""WenJun Zhang[msft]"" <wj*****@online.microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:nl**************@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...

Hi Gerry,

Yes, the April version integrate with both VS2005 and VS2003 well on my
test machine.

I installed the August version and saw the Debugging extension on VS2005
is
no longer available. Is this just your problem? Please check out the
following comments in Readme:

Shader Debugging in Visual Studio 2005

In the August 2006 SDK, the shader debugging functionality of the

DirectX

Extensions for Visual Studio? does not work with Visual Studio 2005.
(Syntax highlighting continues to work with Visual Studio 2005.)

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

Microsoft Online Community Support

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[Patrice]

No these are extensions allowing to debug shaders (and perhaps more).

Try for example
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/de...erDebugger.asp

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Patrice

"gerry" <ge**@nospam.nospama écrit dans le message de news:
uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

dx seems to work just fine with vs2005.
I guess that I was expecting to see something changed in the ide since the
install warns me that my tool bars will all be reset when the dx
extensions
are installed into vs.
looking at vs2003 I can't say that I actually see any sign of anything
having changed there either other than directx being listed in the
installed
products in the about dialog.

so after all that - what then exactly are the directx vs extensions ?
just
the managed dll's ?

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:OK**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I have installed DirectX aug yesterday.

I could run a C# sample in that in Visual Studio 2005.

Cor

""WenJun Zhang[msft]"" <wj*****@online.microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:nl**************@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...

Hi Gerry,

Yes, the April version integrate with both VS2005 and VS2003 well on my
test machine.

I installed the August version and saw the Debugging extension on
VS2005
is
no longer available. Is this just your problem? Please check out the
following comments in Readme:

Shader Debugging in Visual Studio 2005

In the August 2006 SDK, the shader debugging functionality of the

DirectX

Extensions for Visual Studio? does not work with Visual Studio 2005.
(Syntax highlighting continues to work with Visual Studio 2005.)

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

Microsoft Online Community Support

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[WenJun Zhang[msft]]

Yes, the Direct Extension for VS mainly means the Shader Debugger function.
For detailed information on this, please refer to:

DirectX Extensions for Visual Studio .NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/de...us/directx9_c_
Summer_04/directx/graphics/Tools/ShaderDebugger.asp

Sincerely,

WenJun Zhang

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