Namespace in schema Question

[kurtrips]

Hi,

The schema tag (the root tag) of a schema file looks like

<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
elementFormDefault="qualified">

It is mentioned on many web pages across the net that
"the parser does not connect to the server and try to download the
document that's found at http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema. Indeed
there may not be any such document".

So if this is only used as prefix, I may instead have
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="anything"
elementFormDefault="qualified">.

But when I validate my xml with this new xsd, I get "The element
'Books' is used but not declared in the DTD/Schema." It works fine in
case 1. (Books is the root element of my xml file).
Is this because this URL is hardcoded somewhere in the code of the
parser itself?
(I am using the MSXML 3.0 parser.)

[Joe Kesselman]

ku******@gmail.com wrote:

<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
Is this because this URL is hardcoded somewhere in the code of the
parser itself?

Namespace URIs are meaningful even though there's often no "resource" at
the location they name. In this case, the specific URI being bound to
the xs: prefix is the one which is explicitly reserved for use in
defining schemas. If you use something else, this XML document is no
longer a schema document.

The whole point of namespaces is that they are named groups of names. If
you change the name of the group (the namespace URI), the names are no
longer part of that group.
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[kurtrips]

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Joe Kesselman wrote:

In this case, the specific URI being bound to
the xs: prefix is the one which is explicitly reserved for use in
defining schemas. If you use something else, this XML document is no
longer a schema document.

I do think that this *explicit reservation* is declared inside the
parser code. There's no other possible place.

[Richard Tobin]

In article <11*********************@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
<ku******@gmail.com> wrote:

So if this is only used as prefix, I may instead have
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="anything"
elementFormDefault="qualified">.

But when I validate my xml with this new xsd, I get "The element
'Books' is used but not declared in the DTD/Schema." It works fine in
case 1. (Books is the root element of my xml file).
Is this because this URL is hardcoded somewhere in the code of the
parser itself?

Yes. That's how it distinguishes schema declarations from other things,
by their being in the namespace http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.
With your modified declaration, <xs:element name="Books"> is no longer
a schema declaration at all, so any <Books> elements are undeclared.

-- Richard

[Joe Kesselman]

ku******@gmail.com wrote:

I do think that this *explicit reservation* is declared inside the
parser code. There's no other possible place.

Well, inside the schema processing code, which is usually but not
necessarily part of the parser per se, but why quibble.

The important thing is that it's declared in the schema spec. <grin/>
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