Many changes to .NET over last 4 years ?

[Kevin R]

Hi All.
I am currently studying for MCAD C# and the organization I am studying
with have assigned me some online courses to work through as part of
my studies.
However, one of the courses I have been assigned has not been updated
since September 29, 2001. Does anyone think this course is likely to
be so out of date now that it might not actually be relevant anymore ?

This is the overview of the course:

This course covers the .NET Enterprise Servers infrastructure,
treating each of the servers in turn - BizTalk Server 2000,
Application Center 2000, Commerce Server 2000, Host Integration
Server, SQL Server 2000, Exchange Server 2000, ISA Server 2000, Mobile
Information 2001 Server. It then covers each of the chief products of
the .NET initiative and each of the chief services. The course
concludes with a unit devoted to security and standards, third party
services and the benefits of the .NET initiative.

[Ralph]

"Kevin R" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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Hi All.
I am currently studying for MCAD C# and the organization I am studying
with have assigned me some online courses to work through as part of
my studies.
However, one of the courses I have been assigned has not been updated
since September 29, 2001. Does anyone think this course is likely to
be so out of date now that it might not actually be relevant anymore ?

This is the overview of the course:

This course covers the .NET Enterprise Servers infrastructure,
treating each of the servers in turn - BizTalk Server 2000,
Application Center 2000, Commerce Server 2000, Host Integration
Server, SQL Server 2000, Exchange Server 2000, ISA Server 2000, Mobile
Information 2001 Server. It then covers each of the chief products of
the .NET initiative and each of the chief services. The course
concludes with a unit devoted to security and standards, third party
services and the benefits of the .NET initiative.

What is the cost?
How much time is involved?

All these systems are different from current technologies. The 2.0
Framework, 2003 Server, SQL Server 2005, and VS 2005 all present new
features, so much that you will generally consider 2k features 'obselete'.

However, the essential features of C# has not changed (unlike VB) and while
just a guess-ta-mation at least 85% of everything you learn with this course
will serve you well - especially if you have little prior experience with
these technologies. After all, you have to 'start' somewhere. <g>

The tests themselves stay a couple of Versions/SPs back (unless MS decides
to push a particular product).

If this course isn't costing you that much and you can complete it in a few
months (take your test next Spring) - then I say go for it. If it is going
to cost you big bucks or is going to be an 8 month project - (you won't be
taking the test until later in the year) - then I would suggest something
newer.

-ralph

[Kevin R]

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 07:23:38 -0600, "Ralph" <nt*************@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"Kevin R" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:i2********************************@4ax.com.. .

Hi All.
I am currently studying for MCAD C# and the organization I am studying
with have assigned me some online courses to work through as part of
my studies.
However, one of the courses I have been assigned has not been updated
since September 29, 2001. Does anyone think this course is likely to
be so out of date now that it might not actually be relevant anymore ?

This is the overview of the course:

This course covers the .NET Enterprise Servers infrastructure,
treating each of the servers in turn - BizTalk Server 2000,
Application Center 2000, Commerce Server 2000, Host Integration
Server, SQL Server 2000, Exchange Server 2000, ISA Server 2000, Mobile
Information 2001 Server. It then covers each of the chief products of
the .NET initiative and each of the chief services. The course
concludes with a unit devoted to security and standards, third party
services and the benefits of the .NET initiative.

What is the cost?
How much time is involved?

All these systems are different from current technologies. The 2.0
Framework, 2003 Server, SQL Server 2005, and VS 2005 all present new
features, so much that you will generally consider 2k features 'obselete'.

However, the essential features of C# has not changed (unlike VB) and while
just a guess-ta-mation at least 85% of everything you learn with this course
will serve you well - especially if you have little prior experience with
these technologies. After all, you have to 'start' somewhere. <g>

The tests themselves stay a couple of Versions/SPs back (unless MS decides
to push a particular product).

If this course isn't costing you that much and you can complete it in a few
months (take your test next Spring) - then I say go for it. If it is going
to cost you big bucks or is going to be an 8 month project - (you won't be
taking the test until later in the year) - then I would suggest something
newer.

-ralph

OK, thanks for that Ralph.
I am expecting to sit exams in spring. The course cost 1950 UKP
and I couldn't get a refund if I wanted to anyway. The rest of the
course seems OK, we are using VS.net 2003. I just wanted to make sure
that if I am asked about all these servers on the test, I will have
reasonably up to date answers.

Thanks

KevinR.

[John Bailo]

It's absolutely out of date.

Simple example: SQL Server 2005 -- you can now program directly in c#
(stored procedures, UDF) directly on the server. Plus the addition of
native XML datatypes.

A completely different environment.

Kevin R wrote:

Hi All.
I am currently studying for MCAD C# and the organization I am studying
with have assigned me some online courses to work through as part of
my studies.
However, one of the courses I have been assigned has not been updated
since September 29, 2001. Does anyone think this course is likely to
be so out of date now that it might not actually be relevant anymore ?

This is the overview of the course:

This course covers the .NET Enterprise Servers infrastructure,
treating each of the servers in turn - BizTalk Server 2000,
Application Center 2000, Commerce Server 2000, Host Integration
Server, SQL Server 2000, Exchange Server 2000, ISA Server 2000, Mobile
Information 2001 Server. It then covers each of the chief products of
the .NET initiative and each of the chief services. The course
concludes with a unit devoted to security and standards, third party
services and the benefits of the .NET initiative.

[Ralph]

"Kevin R" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:q9********************************@4ax.com...

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 07:23:38 -0600, "Ralph" <nt*************@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"Kevin R" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:i2********************************@4ax.com.. .

Hi All.
I am currently studying for MCAD C# and the organization I am studying
with have assigned me some online courses to work through as part of
my studies.
However, one of the courses I have been assigned has not been updated
since September 29, 2001. Does anyone think this course is likely to
be so out of date now that it might not actually be relevant anymore ?

This is the overview of the course:

This course covers the .NET Enterprise Servers infrastructure,
treating each of the servers in turn - BizTalk Server 2000,
Application Center 2000, Commerce Server 2000, Host Integration
Server, SQL Server 2000, Exchange Server 2000, ISA Server 2000, Mobile
Information 2001 Server. It then covers each of the chief products of
the .NET initiative and each of the chief services. The course
concludes with a unit devoted to security and standards, third party
services and the benefits of the .NET initiative.

What is the cost?
How much time is involved?

All these systems are different from current technologies. The 2.0
Framework, 2003 Server, SQL Server 2005, and VS 2005 all present new
features, so much that you will generally consider 2k features 'obselete'.
However, the essential features of C# has not changed (unlike VB) and whilejust a guess-ta-mation at least 85% of everything you learn with this coursewill serve you well - especially if you have little prior experience with
these technologies. After all, you have to 'start' somewhere. <g>

The tests themselves stay a couple of Versions/SPs back (unless MS decidesto push a particular product).

If this course isn't costing you that much and you can complete it in a fewmonths (take your test next Spring) - then I say go for it. If it is goingto cost you big bucks or is going to be an 8 month project - (you won't betaking the test until later in the year) - then I would suggest something
newer.

-ralph

OK, thanks for that Ralph.
I am expecting to sit exams in spring. The course cost 1950 UKP
and I couldn't get a refund if I wanted to anyway. The rest of the
course seems OK, we are using VS.net 2003. I just wanted to make sure
that if I am asked about all these servers on the test, I will have
reasonably up to date answers.

Thanks

KevinR.

VS 2003 is essentially 2K technology and so is the test "AT THIS TIME".

It is very difficult to give advise about MSC exams. 1) They will come and
claim your first born if you tell too much <g> and, 2) The tests are
adaptive, so basically every test is different, every test taker's
experience is different. In general though, at this time, AFAIK, and IIRC,
(Do I have enough disclaimers in there? <g>) the questions tend to be on the
general application of the various technologies and basic Foundation
libraries. Unless you discover, just before taking the test, that MS has
specifically stated, 2000+ products WILL be on the test, I believe you will
be fine.

-ralph