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Disadvantages/Cons of web services?

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Can someone tell me the Disadvantages/Cons of web services?

Thanks,

EmJ.
Nov 23 '05 #1
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That's a broad question and it would help to know what
you want to compare to?

some disadvantages compared to .net remoting,
disadvantages are:

1) lack of type fidelity when making to web service (e.g.
you cannot pass IDictionary)
2) performance (can use binary formatting with tcp
channel for optimum speed)

-----Original Message-----
Can someone tell me the Disadvantages/Cons of web services?
Thanks,

EmJ.
.

Nov 23 '05 #2

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That's a broad question and it would help to know what
you want to compare to?


compared to anything
Nov 23 '05 #3

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> 1) lack of type fidelity when making to web service (e.g.
you cannot pass IDictionary)
Some might say that is an advantage of XML web services, as tight binding is
the achilles heel of Remoting (i.e. versioning, etc). But I get your point.
2) performance (can use binary formatting with tcp
channel for optimum speed)


True. But the wire overhead is still small compared to overall app time
(i.e. business objects, db lookups, etc.). That is one reason nobody is in
a hurry at MS to do a binary xml (BXML) wire format.

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Nov 23 '05 #4

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Can you give any disadvantages of web services then?
Nov 23 '05 #5

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I don't really see any. In reality (in a MS world) you have socket,
Remoting, and WS/WSE. If you use raw sockets, you end up reinventing much
of what is already their in web services. Today, I think the decision point
is if to use WSE or plain IIS web services. With WSE you get all the
security stuff (and other WS-xxx) and can "touch" it if you have special
needs. With WS you can automatic broad reach for your SOA, even if you
don't expose it right away. Also, you have server tools like SQL and
BizTalk that all use xml web services so you can integrate with those. Also
you will be in good position for Indigo if it ever goes RTM. In a MSDN
video I saw, Don Box asked the audience if anyone had successfully rolled
out a Enterprise Remoting app and *nobody raised there hands. Remoting is a
great tech, but is not the future and versioning issue pretty much is the
killer IMO. WS is now and the future so the case should be "what should I
use if not Web services?". That would depend on your needs.

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

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Nov 23 '05 #6

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Hi,

Please explain what you mean by the "versioning issues"
with .NET remoting,

Thanks,

Jon Paugh
-----Original Message-----
I don't really see any. In reality (in a MS world) you have socket,Remoting, and WS/WSE. If you use raw sockets, you end up reinventing muchof what is already their in web services. Today, I think the decision pointis if to use WSE or plain IIS web services. With WSE you get all thesecurity stuff (and other WS-xxx) and can "touch" it if you have specialneeds. With WS you can automatic broad reach for your SOA, even if youdon't expose it right away. Also, you have server tools like SQL andBizTalk that all use xml web services so you can integrate with those. Alsoyou will be in good position for Indigo if it ever goes RTM. In a MSDNvideo I saw, Don Box asked the audience if anyone had successfully rolledout a Enterprise Remoting app and *nobody raised there hands. Remoting is agreat tech, but is not the future and versioning issue pretty much is thekiller IMO. WS is now and the future so the case should be "what should Iuse if not Web services?". That would depend on your needs.
--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

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Nov 23 '05 #7

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Your types are bound at both sides. So if you change a return class (for
example) or add something you need to change all the clients. With xml, you
can send document containing a,b,c,d even if service only uses a,b. Or
return a,b,c,d even if your client only needs a. Also, you can get any type
into XML, which is not always true with remoting. So things are a lot more
flexible. Others may have better examples for you.

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Jon Paugh" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi,

Please explain what you mean by the "versioning issues"
with .NET remoting,

Thanks,

Jon Paugh
-----Original Message-----
I don't really see any. In reality (in a MS world) you

have socket,
Remoting, and WS/WSE. If you use raw sockets, you end

up reinventing much
of what is already their in web services. Today, I

think the decision point
is if to use WSE or plain IIS web services. With WSE

you get all the
security stuff (and other WS-xxx) and can "touch" it if

you have special
needs. With WS you can automatic broad reach for your

SOA, even if you
don't expose it right away. Also, you have server tools

like SQL and
BizTalk that all use xml web services so you can

integrate with those. Also
you will be in good position for Indigo if it ever goes

RTM. In a MSDN
video I saw, Don Box asked the audience if anyone had

successfully rolled
out a Enterprise Remoting app and *nobody raised there

hands. Remoting is a
great tech, but is not the future and versioning issue

pretty much is the
killer IMO. WS is now and the future so the case should

be "what should I
use if not Web services?". That would depend on your

needs.

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

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Can you give any disadvantages of web services then?


.


Nov 23 '05 #8

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Really? That's cool. I have not tried that. Will have to
give that a try and see for myself. Thanks
-----Original Message-----
Your types are bound at both sides. So if you change a return class (forexample) or add something you need to change all the clients. With xml, youcan send document containing a,b,c,d even if service only uses a,b. Orreturn a,b,c,d even if your client only needs a. Also, you can get any typeinto XML, which is not always true with remoting. So things are a lot moreflexible. Others may have better examples for you.

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Jon Paugh" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:1a****************************@phx.gbl...
Hi,

Please explain what you mean by the "versioning issues"
with .NET remoting,

Thanks,

Jon Paugh
>-----Original Message-----
>I don't really see any. In reality (in a MS world) you
have socket,
>Remoting, and WS/WSE. If you use raw sockets, you end

up reinventing much
>of what is already their in web services. Today, I

think the decision point
>is if to use WSE or plain IIS web services. With WSE

you get all the
>security stuff (and other WS-xxx) and can "touch" it
if you have special
>needs. With WS you can automatic broad reach for your

SOA, even if you
>don't expose it right away. Also, you have server
tools like SQL and
>BizTalk that all use xml web services so you can

integrate with those. Also
>you will be in good position for Indigo if it ever
goes RTM. In a MSDN
>video I saw, Don Box asked the audience if anyone had

successfully rolled
>out a Enterprise Remoting app and *nobody raised there

hands. Remoting is a
>great tech, but is not the future and versioning issue

pretty much is the
>killer IMO. WS is now and the future so the case
should be "what should I
>use if not Web services?". That would depend on your

needs.
>
>--
>William Stacey, MVP
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
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Nov 23 '05 #9

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Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and deployment of
XML web services in real industry standard applications?

Thanks,

EmJ
Nov 23 '05 #10

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Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would start
with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to dink
with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards, that
is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would get
hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really say what
to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to be
working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. It
is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same standards. This
is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again,
maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
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Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and deployment of
XML web services in real industry standard applications?

Thanks,

EmJ


Nov 23 '05 #11

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I am just wanting a list of enablers and a list of prohibitors of
development and deployment of XML web services in real industry standard
applications.

Could you provide me with a list?

Thanks,

EmJ.

"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would start
with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to dink
with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards,
that
is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would get
hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really say what
to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to be
working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. It
is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same standards.
This
is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again,
maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and deployment
of
XML web services in real industry standard applications?

Thanks,

EmJ

Nov 23 '05 #12

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Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML web
services?

Help appriciated,

EmJ.

"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would start
with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to dink
with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards,
that
is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would get
hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really say what
to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to be
working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. It
is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same standards.
This
is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again,
maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and deployment
of
XML web services in real industry standard applications?

Thanks,

EmJ

Nov 23 '05 #13

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School project?

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML web
services?

Help appriciated,

EmJ.

"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would start
with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to dink
with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards,
that
is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would get
hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really say what to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to be working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. It is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same standards.
This
is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again,
maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and deployment
of
XML web services in real industry standard applications?

Thanks,

EmJ



Nov 23 '05 #14

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yes please help.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oa**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
School project?

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML web
services?

Help appriciated,

EmJ.

"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would
> start
> with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to
> dink
> with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards,
> that
> is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would
> get
> hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really say what > to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to be > working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. It > is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same standards.
> This
> is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again,
> maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
> --
> William Stacey, MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
> news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and
>> deployment
>> of
>> XML web services in real industry standard applications?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> EmJ
>>
>>
>


Nov 23 '05 #15

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Here is link that has some ideas
http://www.zapthink.com/report.html?id=ZTR-WS102

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
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yes please help.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oa**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
School project?

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML web services?

Help appriciated,

EmJ.

"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would
> start
> with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to
> dink
> with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards, > that
> is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would
> get
> hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really say

what
> to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to
be
> working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I
see. It
> is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same standards.
> This
> is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then

again, > maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
> --
> William Stacey, MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
> news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and
>> deployment
>> of
>> XML web services in real industry standard applications?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> EmJ
>>
>>
>



Nov 23 '05 #16

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That tells me about Web Services, I have most of that information. Where
does it tell me about enablers and prohibors of web services? Please help,

EmJ.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Here is link that has some ideas
http://www.zapthink.com/report.html?id=ZTR-WS102

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:XZ*******************@fe2.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
yes please help.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oa**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> School project?
>
> --
> William Stacey, MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
> news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML web >> services?
>>
>> Help appriciated,
>>
>> EmJ.
>>
>> "William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would
>> > start
>> > with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to
>> > dink
>> > with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards, >> > that
>> > is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would
>> > get
>> > hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really
>> > say
> what
>> > to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to > be
>> > working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. > It
>> > is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same
>> > standards.
>> > This
>> > is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again, >> > maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
>> > --
>> > William Stacey, MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> >
>> > "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> >> Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and
>> >> deployment
>> >> of
>> >> XML web services in real industry standard applications?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> EmJ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>


Nov 23 '05 #17

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I have done the list the pros and cons. Where are the enablers and
probitors?

Ta,

EmJ.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Here is link that has some ideas
http://www.zapthink.com/report.html?id=ZTR-WS102

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:XZ*******************@fe2.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
yes please help.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oa**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> School project?
>
> --
> William Stacey, MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
> news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML web >> services?
>>
>> Help appriciated,
>>
>> EmJ.
>>
>> "William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would
>> > start
>> > with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to
>> > dink
>> > with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for standards, >> > that
>> > is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would
>> > get
>> > hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really
>> > say
> what
>> > to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem to > be
>> > working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I see. > It
>> > is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same
>> > standards.
>> > This
>> > is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then again, >> > maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
>> > --
>> > William Stacey, MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> >
>> > "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> >> Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and
>> >> deployment
>> >> of
>> >> XML web services in real industry standard applications?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> EmJ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>


Nov 23 '05 #18

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Enablers and prohibiters in this context don't make sense. What context is
the teacher using this language? I assume you have gone over
enablers/prohibiters in class, so what does the teacher want to hear? Don't
make us guess. Pros/Cons or other? IMO, the question is wrong, confusing,
and *very vague. A "prohibiter" is a noun and is "One who prohibits or
forbids; a forbidder; an interdicter". So that does not make sense in the
context of the question IMHO.

Moreover, if teacher does want pros/cons, you need something to compare them
to. Better or worse then what? Better/worse then SneakerNet? Better/worse
then the phone? Better/worse then sockets? What?? Can not answer the
question as it is.

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
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I have done the list the pros and cons. Where are the enablers and
probitors?

Ta,

EmJ.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Here is link that has some ideas
http://www.zapthink.com/report.html?id=ZTR-WS102

--
William Stacey, MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
news:XZ*******************@fe2.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
yes please help.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oa**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> School project?
>
> --
> William Stacey, MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
> news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to XML

web
>> services?
>>
>> Help appriciated,
>>
>> EmJ.
>>
>> "William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I would
>> > start
>> > with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to >> > dink
>> > with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for

standards,
>> > that
>> > is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would >> > get
>> > hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really
>> > say
> what
>> > to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players
seem to
> be
>> > working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I

see.
> It
>> > is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same
>> > standards.
>> > This
>> > is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then

again,
>> > maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
>> > --
>> > William Stacey, MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> >
>> > "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> >> Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and
>> >> deployment
>> >> of
>> >> XML web services in real industry standard applications?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> EmJ
>> >>
>> >>
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Nov 23 '05 #19

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I am creating a web services rich picture.

In the requirements it says, "illustrates pros and cons, enablers,
prohibitors of development and deployment of XML Web Services in real
industry standard applications".

I have done the pros and cons. I am guessing enablers, prohibitors are in
the same context as pros and cons. What do you think?

EmJ.

"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
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Enablers and prohibiters in this context don't make sense. What context
is
the teacher using this language? I assume you have gone over
enablers/prohibiters in class, so what does the teacher want to hear?
Don't
make us guess. Pros/Cons or other? IMO, the question is wrong,
confusing,
and *very vague. A "prohibiter" is a noun and is "One who prohibits or
forbids; a forbidder; an interdicter". So that does not make sense in the
context of the question IMHO.

Moreover, if teacher does want pros/cons, you need something to compare
them
to. Better or worse then what? Better/worse then SneakerNet?
Better/worse
then the phone? Better/worse then sockets? What?? Can not answer the
question as it is.

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"EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
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I have done the list the pros and cons. Where are the enablers and
probitors?

Ta,

EmJ.
"William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Here is link that has some ideas
> http://www.zapthink.com/report.html?id=ZTR-WS102
>
> --
> William Stacey, MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
> news:XZ*******************@fe2.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> yes please help.
>>
>>
>> "William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:Oa**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > School project?
>> >
>> > --
>> > William Stacey, MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> >
>> > "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uO********************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >> Can you tell me what an enabler and prohibitor is in relation to
>> >> XML
> web
>> >> services?
>> >>
>> >> Help appriciated,
>> >>
>> >> EmJ.
>> >>
>> >> "William Stacey [MVP]" <st***********@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Kinda an open ended question. If you want to get started, I
>> >> > would
>> >> > start
>> >> > with WSE and do some TCP web services. That way, you don't need to >> >> > dink
>> >> > with IIS and all that just get Hello World to work. As for
> standards,
>> >> > that
>> >> > is the best part as XML, Soap, and WS-xx are all standards. I would >> >> > get
>> >> > hold of WSE and start playing with it. If you Java, can't really
>> >> > say
>> > what
>> >> > to use, but they have ton of web stuff too. All the WS players seem > to
>> > be
>> >> > working really hard to interop and stick to the specs from what I
> see.
>> > It
>> >> > is really amazing to see this many folks buy into the same
>> >> > standards.
>> >> > This
>> >> > is probably because no one org can say they invented them. Then
> again,
>> >> > maybe Al Gore invented XML and Soap too? :-)
>> >> > --
>> >> > William Stacey, MVP
>> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> >> >
>> >> > "EmJayEm" <Wo*@eookie.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:Wz******************@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> >> >> Can you tell me the enablers, prohibitors of development and
>> >> >> deployment
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> XML web services in real industry standard applications?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> EmJ
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>


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no

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