VB .Net or VS .Net

[Paul Eaton]

I have been using vba and visual studio 6 (vb6 only) for developing
windows apps and I am keen to move to .net to keep my skills updated.

But my main reason for move would be to make asp applications less
painfull to develop. I have used solely vbscript/html/MSSQL for some
small asp apps I have developed. I have used Dreamweaver for this as
a copy was available but for all the benefits it provided I would have
been as well using Notepad. I found testing and debugging these apps
was an absolute nightmare.

If I do not use languages other than VB will VB .Net provide what I am
wanting?
Does vb .net provide as much functionality for developing asp.net
applications as vs.net?
Is debugging asp apps as easy as windows apps now?

As a side question Is there any help with programming vbscript/wmi
added?

(I know the vb 6 to vb .net conversion tool does not come with vb
..net)

[middletree]

If you go here, you can get a free VB.NET 2003 (keep in mind that a new
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It also gives you a free book. Even better, the site has several webcast
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[Cor Ligthert]

Paul,

To answer what somebody needs is always difficult in a newsgroups therefore
some ideas and nothing more than that.

Visual Studio Net is a toolbox which gives with every higher version more
and more tools.

One of the good approaches can be when you want Visual Studio Net complete
to take a MSDN subscribtion.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/subscribers/

However when you want a low budget approach you can take VBnet which is not
in a subscribtion.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...onfeatures.asp

I am not sure what tools are exactly in that VBNet IDE, however my
expirience is that I find the Visual Studio Net IDE one of the fines tools
to write and test JavaScript although it is not that fine as writing and
debuging serverside code with that.

Just my thoughts,

Cor

"Paul Eaton" <pe****@pt.lu> >

I have been using vba and visual studio 6 (vb6 only) for developing

windows apps and I am keen to move to .net to keep my skills updated.

But my main reason for move would be to make asp applications less
painfull to develop. I have used solely vbscript/html/MSSQL for some
small asp apps I have developed. I have used Dreamweaver for this as
a copy was available but for all the benefits it provided I would have
been as well using Notepad. I found testing and debugging these apps
was an absolute nightmare.

If I do not use languages other than VB will VB .Net provide what I am
wanting?
Does vb .net provide as much functionality for developing asp.net
applications as vs.net?
Is debugging asp apps as easy as windows apps now?

As a side question Is there any help with programming vbscript/wmi
added?

(I know the vb 6 to vb .net conversion tool does not come with vb
.net)

[middletree]

Paul, please note that if you take Cor's advice and buy Studio, you can get
a discount by buying the upgrade version. You'd qualify for the upgrade
version, believe it or not, because you own Dreamweaver.
"Cor Ligthert" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Paul,

To answer what somebody needs is always difficult in a newsgroups therefore some ideas and nothing more than that.

Visual Studio Net is a toolbox which gives with every higher version more
and more tools.

One of the good approaches can be when you want Visual Studio Net complete
to take a MSDN subscribtion.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/subscribers/

However when you want a low budget approach you can take VBnet which is not in a subscribtion.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...onfeatures.asp

[Roger Strong]

"Paul Eaton" <pe****@pt.lu> wrote...

If I do not use languages other than VB will VB .Net provide what I am
wanting?

Be careful - Even if you only plan to program in VB.Net, you may require the
VB.Net that comes in Visual Studio. The stand-alone VB.Net is crippleware -
the ability to program for the Pocket PC has been removed, for example.
Many of the programming examples and tutorials will be for Visual Basic.Net,
without mentioning that they only work in Visual Studio, and NOT the product
called "Visual Basic.Net".

[Paul Eaton]

"Roger Strong" <rs*****@yetmans.mb.ca> wrote in message news:<eh**************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>...

"Paul Eaton" <pe****@pt.lu> wrote...

If I do not use languages other than VB will VB .Net provide what I am
wanting?

Be careful - Even if you only plan to program in VB.Net, you may require the
VB.Net that comes in Visual Studio. The stand-alone VB.Net is crippleware -
the ability to program for the Pocket PC has been removed, for example.
Many of the programming examples and tutorials will be for Visual Basic.Net,
without mentioning that they only work in Visual Studio, and NOT the product
called "Visual Basic.Net".

Lucky me - my employer has supplied me with a Select copy of vs .net
(Architect version) Well I'm sure there is plenty functionality in
there that I will never get round to using. Just need to find the
time as this is not my primary job function and I'm always so darn
busy.

Thanks for all those who spent the time to reply.