How Low Can They Stoop ?

[John Bailo]

It's bad enough that M$ pays trolls to post in linux newsgroups.

But today, I received a troll email on the mono-develop email list.

Mono-develop !?!?!

Do they have that many drones and robots working for them?

Here's the troll letter:

________________________________________________

Hi Monofolks,

In the Last Days i hve reading some Microsoft stuff about, chaning
WinForms to the new
managed Code API called WinFX. WinFX includes an .NET Managed Windowing
Toolkit and
WinForms will be deprecated in Future (there are Statements on the
WinHEC thadt Microsoft takes
care for a Interoperatibility, but i dont know...).

The New GUI Windowing System is based on XML (a Subinterpreation called
XAML) and should
allow more seamless Things between Documents and Application Windows or
something like thadt.

WinFX is integrated into Longhorn and it can be installed to WinFX and
is Microsoft longterm
Plan for .NET and Windows together (i think it is clear why they are
doing thadt, to bring trouble
to Mono)

Anyway, the .NET Runtim and many Things from Longhorn would be
rewritten Â*from C/C++ to C#
and Managed Code. The .NET Runtime will be a integrated Â*Component
inside the Operatingsystem
and any other Programms should based ont it.

I dont know what is up with the Win32-API but it looks like, thadt Microsoft
will the Support cuttof after a Time.

The Webbrowser Internet Explorer will also as Webcomponets fully
integrated with
Windows Longhorn.
ps:
I think MS will go on and make the Next Visual Studuio Version a Mix of
WinFX and other
Longhorn Technologies.If this comes true, then it cannot be run on Mono.
The Only way is, to
cover the complete WinFX API with all Sub API thadt are Close Source.

Falk
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[Andrew Faust]

John Bailo <ja*****@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<qF****************@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net>...

It's bad enough that M$ pays trolls to post in linux newsgroups.

But today, I received a troll email on the mono-develop email list.

Mono-develop !?!?!

Do they have that many drones and robots working for them?

Here's the troll letter:

________________________________________________

Hi Monofolks,

In the Last Days i hve reading some Microsoft stuff about, chaning
WinForms to the new
managed Code API called WinFX. WinFX includes an .NET Managed Windowing
Toolkit and
WinForms will be deprecated in Future (there are Statements on the
WinHEC thadt Microsoft takes
care for a Interoperatibility, but i dont know...).

The New GUI Windowing System is based on XML (a Subinterpreation called
XAML) and should
allow more seamless Things between Documents and Application Windows or
something like thadt.

WinFX is integrated into Longhorn and it can be installed to WinFX and
is Microsoft longterm
Plan for .NET and Windows together (i think it is clear why they are
doing thadt, to bring trouble
to Mono)

Anyway, the .NET Runtim and many Things from Longhorn would be
rewritten ÂÂÂ*from C/C++ to C#
and Managed Code. The .NET Runtime will be a integrated ÂÂÂ*Component
inside the Operatingsystem
and any other Programms should based ont it.

I dont know what is up with the Win32-API but it looks like, thadt Microsoft
will the Support cuttof after a Time.

The Webbrowser Internet Explorer will also as Webcomponets fully
integrated with
Windows Longhorn.
ps:
I think MS will go on and make the Next Visual Studuio Version a Mix of
WinFX and other
Longhorn Technologies.If this comes true, then it cannot be run on Mono.
The Only way is, to
cover the complete WinFX API with all Sub API thadt are Close Source.

Falk
_______________________________________________
Mono-devel-list mailing list
Mo*************@lists.ximian.com
http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/list...ono-devel-list

I don't see what your issue is with this message. Even if this does
come from Microsoft, it is merely an informative message about
Microsoft's future plans for the .NET framework, which is something
that should be extremely relavant to the Mono development team.

Andrew Faust

[Eddie de Bear]

How on earth did your twisted little mind turn a letter from a Mono Mailing
list into a post against MS.. Seriosly???

If you have a problem with recieving mail on a Mono mailing list, take your
name off it... easy...

Anyhow, Most of what is in that email is true.. i.e. there is going to be a
new windowing system, called avalon. It is XML based (similar to SVG) that
microsoft has been working on for a bit now.. It would not be too hard for
the Mono people to implement something similar (depending on patents etc..).
Having said that, Windows Forms will still be around and supported for quite
some time to come.. They are not just going to switch overnight..

As for the Managed WinFX.. It's pretty exciting if you ask me.. Everything I
have read states that the Win32 API will remain, for compatability of
course.. So don't stress too much about that..
But just think of how nice it will be to be able to do everything from
inside the .NET runtime without having to marshal win32 api calls all the
time..

Anyhow.. That's my 2c...

Nice to hear from you.. I thought you had forgotten about this newsgroup..

Cheers

"John Bailo" wrote:

It's bad enough that M$ pays trolls to post in linux newsgroups.

But today, I received a troll email on the mono-develop email list.

Mono-develop !?!?!

Do they have that many drones and robots working for them?

Here's the troll letter:

________________________________________________

Hi Monofolks,

In the Last Days i hve reading some Microsoft stuff about, chaning
WinForms to the new
managed Code API called WinFX. WinFX includes an .NET Managed Windowing
Toolkit and
WinForms will be deprecated in Future (there are Statements on the
WinHEC thadt Microsoft takes
care for a Interoperatibility, but i dont know...).

The New GUI Windowing System is based on XML (a Subinterpreation called
XAML) and should
allow more seamless Things between Documents and Application Windows or
something like thadt.

WinFX is integrated into Longhorn and it can be installed to WinFX and
is Microsoft longterm
Plan for .NET and Windows together (i think it is clear why they are
doing thadt, to bring trouble
to Mono)

Anyway, the .NET Runtim and many Things from Longhorn would be
rewritten from C/C++ to C#
and Managed Code. The .NET Runtime will be a integrated Component
inside the Operatingsystem
and any other Programms should based ont it.

I dont know what is up with the Win32-API but it looks like, thadt Microsoft
will the Support cuttof after a Time.

The Webbrowser Internet Explorer will also as Webcomponets fully
integrated with
Windows Longhorn.
ps:
I think MS will go on and make the Next Visual Studuio Version a Mix of
WinFX and other
Longhorn Technologies.If this comes true, then it cannot be run on Mono.
The Only way is, to
cover the complete WinFX API with all Sub API thadt are Close Source.

Falk
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