annoyed with vb.net

[rufus]

Hi,

I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
something similar with vb.net!!

And what about the compiler that ships with it. COMMAND LINE!!! It is not
much fun typing in lengthy commands all the time and then discovering you
have missed a reference library. I have looked around and there is very
little available in the way of a compiler with a GUI. How can this be?????

And development tools.....I downloaded ASP:NET Web Matrix and I thought it
looked pretty good but soon discovered that it cannot assemble class files.
I also had a look at SharpDevelop but it was buggy and the documentation was
virtually non existent.

Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
The problems I am having are making that very hard.

Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer any constructive
advice??

Thanks.

[Arne Janning]

"rufus" <he***@online.de> schrieb

I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
something similar with vb.net!!
Hi Rufus,

have you downloaded and installed the .NET-Framework-SDK? Then click on
Start | Programs | Microsoft .NET Framework SDK v1.1 | Documentation

You'll find tons of structured information there, a search function is
available as well of course.
Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
The problems I am having are making that very hard.

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free. I already hear them wailing
over market dominance, cross financing, etc.
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/get/

Note that there are evaluation versions of VS.NET as well if you want to
"check it out", as you described.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/trial/

Cheers

Arne Janning

[Hal Rosser]

Take a look at Netbeans IDE; www.netbeans.org or Eclipse IDE;
www.Eclipse.org
you may want to return to java

"rufus" <he***@online.de> wrote in message news:cg**********@online.de...

Hi,

I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
something similar with vb.net!!

And what about the compiler that ships with it. COMMAND LINE!!! It is not much fun typing in lengthy commands all the time and then discovering you
have missed a reference library. I have looked around and there is very
little available in the way of a compiler with a GUI. How can this be?????
And development tools.....I downloaded ASP:NET Web Matrix and I thought it
looked pretty good but soon discovered that it cannot assemble class files. I also had a look at SharpDevelop but it was buggy and the documentation was virtually non existent.

Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
The problems I am having are making that very hard.

Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer any constructive
advice??

Thanks.

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[Scott M.]

In the .NET Framework SDK there is an executable called "wincv.exe" (windows
class viewer). I believe this is what you are looking for. Or, how about
the good old Object Browser available in VS.NET (F2) - this works as well.
"rufus" <he***@online.de> wrote in message news:cg**********@online.de...

Hi,

I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
something similar with vb.net!!

And what about the compiler that ships with it. COMMAND LINE!!! It is
not
much fun typing in lengthy commands all the time and then discovering you
have missed a reference library. I have looked around and there is very
little available in the way of a compiler with a GUI. How can this
be?????

And development tools.....I downloaded ASP:NET Web Matrix and I thought it
looked pretty good but soon discovered that it cannot assemble class
files.
I also had a look at SharpDevelop but it was buggy and the documentation
was
virtually non existent.

Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
The problems I am having are making that very hard.

Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer any constructive
advice??

Thanks.

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> scripsit:

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Arne Janning]

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi***************@gmx.at> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:2p************@uni-berlin.de...

* "Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> scripsit:

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the
new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants
to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

I know, but it would have destroyed the rhetorical antithesis... :-)

Cheers

AJ

[rufus]

"Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi***************@gmx.at> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:2p************@uni-berlin.de...

* "Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> scripsit:

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

I know, but it would have destroyed the rhetorical antithesis... :-)

Cheers

AJ

Hi AJ,

Thanks for your help. I just downloaded Visual Web Developer 2005 Express
Edition Beta and it is absolutely fantastic. Just what I was looking for!
Thanks.

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> scripsit:

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Arne Janning]

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi***************@gmx.at> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:2p************@uni-berlin.de...

* "Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> scripsit:

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the
new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants
to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

I know, but it would have destroyed the rhetorical antithesis... :-)

Cheers

AJ

[rufus]

"Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> wrote in message
news:OF*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi***************@gmx.at> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:2p************@uni-berlin.de...

* "Arne Janning" <sp*****************@msn.com> scripsit:

Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

I know, but it would have destroyed the rhetorical antithesis... :-)

Cheers

AJ

Hi AJ,

Thanks for your help. I just downloaded Visual Web Developer 2005 Express
Edition Beta and it is absolutely fantastic. Just what I was looking for!
Thanks.