NNTP class ?

[Craig Kenisston]

Does this exist in the.net framework ? I can't find it. I could find SMTP,
though.
If it doesn't, could anybody recommend a component suite that includes smtp,
pop, nntp ? But mainly, that does include nntp.

Thanks,

[AirPete]

Craig Kenisston wrote:

Does this exist in the.net framework ? I can't find it. I could find
SMTP, though.
If it doesn't, could anybody recommend a component suite that
includes smtp, pop, nntp ? But mainly, that does include nntp.

Thanks,

In the future, please avoid cross-posting.

There's a simple NNTP client here:
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/nn...sp?target=nntp

- Pete

[gabriel]

Craig Kenisston wrote:

Does this exist in the.net framework ? I can't find it. I could find
SMTP, though.
If it doesn't, could anybody recommend a component suite that includes
smtp, pop, nntp ? But mainly, that does include nntp.

Have a look at Indy (http://www.nevrona.com/Indy/Indy.html). It's been
around for Delphi for a long time (so the code is stable) and it just got
re-compiled for .NET as well.

--
gabriel

[gabriel]

AirPete wrote:

In the future, please avoid cross-posting.

Why? It's much better than opsting multiple times, once to each different
group. Any reasonable news reader will correctly mark a cross-posted
article as "read" in the other groups when you read it the first time in
the first cross-posted group.

Cross-posting is a reasonable thing to do when you don't know where to ask
or the question truly applies to different groups. Additionally, replies
from other groups also show up everywhere, eliminating duplicity. In this
question, I would think it perfectly appropriate to cross-post. Things get
really annoying when people post the same thing several times to each group
though.

--
gabriel

[Gary Morris]

I agree, for the most part. There ARE times when it is appropriate, and
it is a lot better than multiple posts to different groups. Sometimes you
just don't know exactly where it fits best, and you can get a better
response posting across several related groups. Some people tend to
automatically say "don't crosspost", even before they actually read the
message to see if it is necessary or not.

"gabriel" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:34**************************@msgid.meganewsse rvers.com...

AirPete wrote:

In the future, please avoid cross-posting.
Why? It's much better than opsting multiple times, once to each different
group. Any reasonable news reader will correctly mark a cross-posted
article as "read" in the other groups when you read it the first time in
the first cross-posted group.

Cross-posting is a reasonable thing to do when you don't know where to ask
or the question truly applies to different groups. Additionally, replies
from other groups also show up everywhere, eliminating duplicity. In this
question, I would think it perfectly appropriate to cross-post. Things

get really annoying when people post the same thing several times to each group though.

--
gabriel

[AirPete]

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"gabriel" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:34**************************@msgid.meganewsse rvers.com...

AirPete wrote:

In the future, please avoid cross-posting.
Why? It's much better than opsting multiple times, once to each
different group. Any reasonable news reader will correctly mark a
cross-posted article as "read" in the other groups when you read it
the first time in the first cross-posted group.

Cross-posting is a reasonable thing to do when you don't know where
to ask or the question truly applies to different groups.
Additionally, replies from other groups also show up everywhere,
eliminating duplicity. In this question, I would think it perfectly
appropriate to cross-post. Things get really annoying when people
post the same thing several times to each group though.

--
gabriel

Gary Morris wrote: I agree, for the most part. There ARE times when it is appropriate,
and it is a lot better than multiple posts to different groups.
Sometimes you just don't know exactly where it fits best, and you can
get a better response posting across several related groups. Some
people tend to automatically say "don't crosspost", even before they
actually read the message to see if it is necessary or not.

I probably should have put "Please don't cross post to groups unrelated to
your query".
It was posted to these:
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.windowsforms.con trols,microsoft.public.dot
net.general,microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csha rp
Only m.p.d.general seems really appropriate, especially not
windowsforms.controls.

- Pete

[Craig Kenisston]

Hi,

Thanks for your link to codeproject, that's nice.

Respecting the comments about crossposting, yes, it is annoying some times,
but do you think that one someone decide to crosspost is just because the
sky is cloudy or the dog is barking ?
In this case, and well, in other case, I always have this doubt : microsoft
don't have special groups for 3rdparty component. Borland does have them,
btw.

So, I posted to C#, because I think the most advanced programmers are there
(IMHO) and probably had the need to use a nntp class before ... again it is
IMHO.
I posted to to the "controls" groups, because, well, what the heck, where
do you post to ask about components that are not windows controls !?!?!?
Please tell me.
I mean, if "controls" groups is for visual controls, then where is the group
for non-visual controls ? or a control/component for nntp is not a control ?
I am start to getting confused here.

And latelly, I posted to "general" because I felt non of the above really
were 100% appropiate.
Thanks again for your link,
Regards,


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"gabriel" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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AirPete wrote:

In the future, please avoid cross-posting.

Why? It's much better than opsting multiple times, once to each
different group. Any reasonable news reader will correctly mark a
cross-posted article as "read" in the other groups when you read it
the first time in the first cross-posted group.

Cross-posting is a reasonable thing to do when you don't know where
to ask or the question truly applies to different groups.
Additionally, replies from other groups also show up everywhere,
eliminating duplicity. In this question, I would think it perfectly
appropriate to cross-post. Things get really annoying when people
post the same thing several times to each group though.

--
gabriel

Gary Morris wrote:

I agree, for the most part. There ARE times when it is appropriate,
and it is a lot better than multiple posts to different groups.
Sometimes you just don't know exactly where it fits best, and you can
get a better response posting across several related groups. Some
people tend to automatically say "don't crosspost", even before they
actually read the message to see if it is necessary or not.

I probably should have put "Please don't cross post to groups unrelated to
your query".
It was posted to these:

microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.windowsforms.con trols,microsoft.public.dot net.general,microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csha rp
Only m.p.d.general seems really appropriate, especially not
windowsforms.controls.

- Pete

[Craig Kenisston]

Gabriel :

Thanks a lot !! I didn't know Indy was available for dotNet now !
Why nobody told me ? <g>
I used it in Delphi some time ago, they are great components.

Thanks,

"gabriel" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:14**************************@msgid.meganewsse rvers.com...

Craig Kenisston wrote:

Does this exist in the.net framework ? I can't find it. I could find
SMTP, though.
If it doesn't, could anybody recommend a component suite that includes
smtp, pop, nntp ? But mainly, that does include nntp.

Have a look at Indy (http://www.nevrona.com/Indy/Indy.html). It's been
around for Delphi for a long time (so the code is stable) and it just got
re-compiled for .NET as well.

--
gabriel

[gabriel]

Craig Kenisston wrote:

Thanks a lot !! I didn't know Indy was available for dotNet now !
Why nobody told me ? <g>
Hehe, I did not know either, but I just receive Delphi 8 (which now
compiles for .NET) so I guess it was a simple recompile for them!
I used it in Delphi some time ago, they are great components.

Yeah, they are awesome... I was very happy to hear that they came out with
a working .NET version.

--
gabriel

[Craig Kenisston]

Oh, one more Delphi user in the dotnet newsgroups ;)
I been using Delphi since version 2, but I have a year that I started to C#,
and I've been creating the new projects with this.

I have lots of 3rdparty controls for Delphi, like InfoPower, DevExpress,
DreamControls and some database components like DBISAM and Apollo.
Do you think they will be able to create a dotnet version just by
recompiling ? I mean, shouldn't they have to take ride of all those unsafe
pchars and similars ?

I've been starting to doubt about the future of Delphi, and I'd like to hear
other's opinions
Thanks,

"gabriel" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:b9***************************@msgid.meganewss ervers.com...

Craig Kenisston wrote:

Thanks a lot !! I didn't know Indy was available for dotNet now !
Why nobody told me ? <g>
Hehe, I did not know either, but I just receive Delphi 8 (which now
compiles for .NET) so I guess it was a simple recompile for them!

I used it in Delphi some time ago, they are great components.

Yeah, they are awesome... I was very happy to hear that they came out

with a working .NET version.

--
gabriel

[Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu]

"Craig Kenisston" <cr************@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ui**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

Does this exist in the.net framework ? I can't find it. I could find
SMTP, though.
If it doesn't, could anybody recommend a component suite that includes
smtp, pop, nntp ? But mainly, that does include nntp.

http://www.indyproject.org/indy.html

Has SMTP, POP3, IMAP4, NNTP, and more.
--
Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/
"Programming is an art form that fights back"
ELKNews - Get your free copy at http://www.atozedsoftware.com

[Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu]

"Craig Kenisston" <cr************@hotmail.com> wrote in news:OHnyMiD7DHA.1816
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

Thanks a lot !! I didn't know Indy was available for dotNet now !
Why nobody told me ? <g>
We've been trying to spread the word. :)
I used it in Delphi some time ago, they are great components.

Thanks.
--
Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/
"Programming is an art form that fights back"
ELKNews - Get your free copy at http://www.atozedsoftware.com

[Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu]

"Craig Kenisston" <cr************@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:e9**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

recompiling ? I mean, shouldn't they have to take ride of all those
Its not quite as simple as just recopmiling - but it can be used to produce
single source projects.
unsafe pchars and similars ?
Indy and Atozed stayed away from them and went OO whenever possible anyways,
so the ports were pretty eays.
I've been starting to doubt about the future of Delphi, and I'd like to
hear other's opinions

Its the only option for single source.
--
Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/
"Programming is an art form that fights back"
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