Is Framework Included On New PC's

[Mark_S]

Does the .net framework v1.1 come pre-installed on new Window's PC's? For
example, there is a recent news article about AOL selling a $299 PC bundle
that has Windows XP Home edition- will this PC have the 1.1 framework
installed? The article said the PC would have StarOffice installed, which
leads me to believe it will probably have a Sun JVM installed.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/1001293.asp?0dm=C14OT

Is MS able to require all new Windows XP pc's to have the 1.1 framework
installed?

-mark

[Scott M.]

Windows XP SP 1 incorporated the .NET Framework into Windows. Windows
Server 2003 comes with the 1.1 Framework already in there.
"Mark_S" <x> wrote in message news:u$**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Does the .net framework v1.1 come pre-installed on new Window's PC's? For
example, there is a recent news article about AOL selling a $299 PC bundle
that has Windows XP Home edition- will this PC have the 1.1 framework
installed? The article said the PC would have StarOffice installed, which
leads me to believe it will probably have a Sun JVM installed.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/1001293.asp?0dm=C14OT

Is MS able to require all new Windows XP pc's to have the 1.1 framework
installed?

-mark

[Mark_S]

I checked the Windows XP SP1 page and it said:
"The .Net Framework is an optional installation included in the Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1a) stand-alone CD."

So I guess if someone gets their updates online from WindowsUpdate (like me)
then the framework wouldn't get installed with SP1. I think it shows up as a
separate "Recommended Update" on the WindowsUpdate site. I know versions of
windows starting with XP TabletPC edition come with the framework installed.
I worked with TabletPC's earlier this year and they came with the 1.0
framework.

I'm looking at this from an independent software developer perspective,
developing a product that is .net based, and wondering how many client pc's
already have the framework installed. I'm pretty sure that new OS versions
released after .Net came along will have the framework installed. But it
seems XP Home/Pro will be selling for a while still and it would be nice if
new sales had the framework in there.

I think everyone should start using Delphi 7 instead of .net, it has this
really cool feature called "XCOPY Deployment" and doesn't require a VM to be
installed. oh well

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:e0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Windows XP SP 1 incorporated the .NET Framework into Windows. Windows
Server 2003 comes with the 1.1 Framework already in there.

[Daniel O'Connell]

"Mark_S" <x> wrote in message news:uh**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

I checked the Windows XP SP1 page and it said:
"The .Net Framework is an optional installation included in the Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1a) stand-alone CD."

So I guess if someone gets their updates online from WindowsUpdate (like me) then the framework wouldn't get installed with SP1. I think it shows up as a separate "Recommended Update" on the WindowsUpdate site. I know versions of windows starting with XP TabletPC edition come with the framework installed. I worked with TabletPC's earlier this year and they came with the 1.0
framework.

I'm looking at this from an independent software developer perspective,
developing a product that is .net based, and wondering how many client pc's already have the framework installed. I'm pretty sure that new OS versions
released after .Net came along will have the framework installed. But it
seems XP Home/Pro will be selling for a while still and it would be nice if new sales had the framework in there.

I think everyone should start using Delphi 7 instead of .net, it has this
really cool feature called "XCOPY Deployment" and doesn't require a VM to be installed. oh well Heh, counter argument: No one should ever use anything but .NET and then the
framework will be installed everywhere.

Makes about as much sense, doesn't it? Except its more likely to actually
happen than everyone moving to Delphi.

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:e0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Windows XP SP 1 incorporated the .NET Framework into Windows. Windows
Server 2003 comes with the 1.1 Framework already in there.

[Alvin Bruney]

Its likely to happen because its ECMA speced

Unlike Java or VB runtimes , its not propriety

Its just as valid as the C runtime thats installed everywhere.

Watch it happen.

Just walk past the crybaby losers.
"Daniel O'Connell" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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"Mark_S" <x> wrote in message news:uh**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

I checked the Windows XP SP1 page and it said:
"The .Net Framework is an optional installation included in the Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1a) stand-alone CD."

So I guess if someone gets their updates online from WindowsUpdate (like

me)

then the framework wouldn't get installed with SP1. I think it shows up as a

separate "Recommended Update" on the WindowsUpdate site. I know versions of

windows starting with XP TabletPC edition come with the framework

installed.

I worked with TabletPC's earlier this year and they came with the 1.0
framework.

I'm looking at this from an independent software developer perspective,
developing a product that is .net based, and wondering how many client

pc's

already have the framework installed. I'm pretty sure that new OS

versions released after .Net came along will have the framework installed. But it
seems XP Home/Pro will be selling for a while still and it would be nice

if

new sales had the framework in there.

I think everyone should start using Delphi 7 instead of .net, it has this really cool feature called "XCOPY Deployment" and doesn't require a VM

to be

installed. oh well Heh, counter argument: No one should ever use anything but .NET and then

the framework will be installed everywhere.

Makes about as much sense, doesn't it? Except its more likely to actually
happen than everyone moving to Delphi.

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:e0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Windows XP SP 1 incorporated the .NET Framework into Windows. Windows
Server 2003 comes with the 1.1 Framework already in there.

[Scott M.]

The .NET Framework IS included in the Automatic Updates of Windows XP SP 1.

If someone uses Windows Update, the .NET Framework will be part of SP 1.
"Mark_S" <x> wrote in message news:uh**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

I checked the Windows XP SP1 page and it said:
"The .Net Framework is an optional installation included in the Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1a) stand-alone CD."

So I guess if someone gets their updates online from WindowsUpdate (like me) then the framework wouldn't get installed with SP1. I think it shows up as a separate "Recommended Update" on the WindowsUpdate site. I know versions of windows starting with XP TabletPC edition come with the framework installed. I worked with TabletPC's earlier this year and they came with the 1.0
framework.

I'm looking at this from an independent software developer perspective,
developing a product that is .net based, and wondering how many client pc's already have the framework installed. I'm pretty sure that new OS versions
released after .Net came along will have the framework installed. But it
seems XP Home/Pro will be selling for a while still and it would be nice if new sales had the framework in there.

I think everyone should start using Delphi 7 instead of .net, it has this
really cool feature called "XCOPY Deployment" and doesn't require a VM to be installed. oh well

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:e0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Windows XP SP 1 incorporated the .NET Framework into Windows. Windows
Server 2003 comes with the 1.1 Framework already in there.