This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL better.
I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a total IL
guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of project
would I create?
TIA,
Bill
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Never mind, I just found it... Ilasm.exe
"William Ryan" <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL better.
I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a total
IL guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of
project would I create?
TIA,
Bill
--
Cordially,
W.G. Ryan
do********@comcast.nospam.net
www.devbuzz.com
www.knowdotnet.com
On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL better.
I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a total IL
guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of project
would I create?
TIA,
Bill
Sorry, Bill I don't really know the answer to your question... I was
actually just wondering about the book? This is an area, I've been
meaning to look at for quite some time. In fact, I have a little
BASIC variant I would like to write a .NET compiler for, and I'm looking
into all the resources I can find :) So, what was it called?
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...lance&n=507846
I was tipped off to it by the guys at Wintellect so I knew it was worth
reading. I almost bought it friday but I couldn't figure out how I'd
actually compile the stuff. Other than that, it's a great book, and
understanding what's happening under the hood is definitely something that
can make you a stronger programmer....
HTH,
Bill
"Tom Shelton" <to*@mtogden.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL
better. I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a total
IL guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of
project would I create?
TIA,
Bill
Sorry, Bill I don't really know the answer to your question... I was
actually just wondering about the book? This is an area, I've been
meaning to look at for quite some time. In fact, I have a little
BASIC variant I would like to write a .NET compiler for, and I'm looking
into all the resources I can find :) So, what was it called?
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic]
On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...lance&n=507846
I was tipped off to it by the guys at Wintellect so I knew it was worth
reading. I almost bought it friday but I couldn't figure out how I'd
actually compile the stuff. Other than that, it's a great book, and
understanding what's happening under the hood is definitely something that
can make you a stronger programmer....
HTH,
Bill
Thanks Bill. I appreciate the tip.
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic]
IF you want to write a compiler, check out John Gough's "Compiling for the
..NET CLR". It focuses on the CLR and IL but from a compiler writer's
aspect. Both books (Serge's too) are great :).
-mike
MVP
"Tom Shelton" <to*@mtogden.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL
better. I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a total
IL guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of
project would I create?
TIA,
Bill
Sorry, Bill I don't really know the answer to your question... I was
actually just wondering about the book? This is an area, I've been
meaning to look at for quite some time. In fact, I have a little
BASIC variant I would like to write a .NET compiler for, and I'm looking
into all the resources I can find :) So, what was it called?
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic]
Tom,
I just picked up "The Common Language Infrastructure Annotated Standard" by
James S. Miller & Susann Ragsdale, from Addison Wesley. It covers the CLI
standard with annotations, including the CTS & CLS.
Included is the CIL instruction set (IL).
CLI = Common Language Infrastructure
CIL = Common Intermediate Language
CTS = Common Type System
CLS = Common Language Specification
So far it is a handy reference when you want to get lower into the .NET
runtime then C# or VB.NET exposes.
Hope this helps
Jay
"Tom Shelton" <to*@mtogden.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL
better. I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a total
IL guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of
project would I create?
TIA,
Bill
Sorry, Bill I don't really know the answer to your question... I was
actually just wondering about the book? This is an area, I've been
meaning to look at for quite some time. In fact, I have a little
BASIC variant I would like to write a .NET compiler for, and I'm looking
into all the resources I can find :) So, what was it called?
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic]
Will do! Many thanks!
"Michael Giagnocavo [MVP]" <mg*******@Atrevido.net> wrote in message
news:uk**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... IF you want to write a compiler, check out John Gough's "Compiling for the
.NET CLR". It focuses on the CLR and IL but from a compiler writer's
aspect. Both books (Serge's too) are great :).
-mike
MVP
"Tom Shelton" <to*@mtogden.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL better. I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a
total IL guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of project would I create?
TIA,
Bill
Sorry, Bill I don't really know the answer to your question... I was
actually just wondering about the book? This is an area, I've been
meaning to look at for quite some time. In fact, I have a little
BASIC variant I would like to write a .NET compiler for, and I'm looking
into all the resources I can find :) So, what was it called?
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic]
It does, I will definitely check it out. I guess I'm about to embark upon a
lot of learning, and I do appreciate the tip. Many Thanks,
Bill
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja********@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:OJ**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Tom,
I just picked up "The Common Language Infrastructure Annotated Standard"
by James S. Miller & Susann Ragsdale, from Addison Wesley. It covers the CLI
standard with annotations, including the CTS & CLS.
Included is the CIL instruction set (IL).
CLI = Common Language Infrastructure
CIL = Common Intermediate Language
CTS = Common Type System
CLS = Common Language Specification
So far it is a handy reference when you want to get lower into the .NET
runtime then C# or VB.NET exposes.
Hope this helps
Jay
"Tom Shelton" <to*@mtogden.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... On 2003-11-05, William Ryan <do********@nospam.comcast.net> wrote: This is going to sound really stupid... but I'm trying to learn IL better. I've seen a book on writing code in IL. But lets say that I was a
total IL guru.. Where would I actually write the instructions? What type of project would I create?
TIA,
Bill
Sorry, Bill I don't really know the answer to your question... I was
actually just wondering about the book? This is an area, I've been
meaning to look at for quite some time. In fact, I have a little
BASIC variant I would like to write a .NET compiler for, and I'm looking
into all the resources I can find :) So, what was it called?
--
Tom Shelton
MVP [Visual Basic]
Are you serious about the book on Writing code in IL... does it really
make sense to write code in IL... IT makes sense to unassemble the
assembly... for some study purpose... but it;s crazy to write in IL...
and anyways who writes code in assembly langauge... i mean what %age of
people do so...
keyur shah
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Keyur,
How many people write in pure Assembly (on any processor), because they
either like to or they have to?
Also I hope you agree writing code in IL is a useful talent to have for
Compiler writers as the Compiler need to create IL code (not necessarily IL
source) that gets generated into an assembly.
Hope this helps
Jay
"keyur shah" <ke***@softwareklinic.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Are you serious about the book on Writing code in IL... does it really
make sense to write code in IL... IT makes sense to unassemble the
assembly... for some study purpose... but it;s crazy to write in IL...
and anyways who writes code in assembly langauge... i mean what %age of
people do so...
keyur shah
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Compiler and tool writers need to write in IL :). Also it's a fun way to
play around with the CLR capabilities (Don't know of any language that
allows you to do everything the CLR can do).
There's not much benefit to writing in IL (unlike in x86 where you could do
special optimizations) compared to a higher language, unless you need to do
something not possible in your language. I've only had to do this once, and
in retrospect, I think it might have been possible to achieve it with the
Reflection libraries, somehow.
-mike
MVP
"keyur shah" <ke***@softwareklinic.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Are you serious about the book on Writing code in IL... does it really
make sense to write code in IL... IT makes sense to unassemble the
assembly... for some study purpose... but it;s crazy to write in IL...
and anyways who writes code in assembly langauge... i mean what %age of
people do so...
keyur shah
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