I want a GNU Search Engine

[john bailo]

I microcrap is buying Google --

then I want a GNU search engine !
( Cant that decrepit creep keep his hands off of anything ? )

[Alan Connor]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:06:41 GMT, john bailo <ja*****@earthlink.net> wrote:

I microcrap is buying Google --

then I want a GNU search engine !
( Cant that decrepit creep keep his hands off of anything ? )

That is an EXCELLENT idea.

The ads on google are already getting to be a drag, and I know for a fact
that they leave out one HELL of a lot of websites.

The GNU GOOGLE

GNUGLE ?

should clearly identify commercial websites and put them in a seperate
category- Catalogs.

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[mlw]

john bailo wrote:

I microcrap is buying Google --

then I want a GNU search engine !
( Cant that decrepit creep keep his hands off of anything ? )

If you can find the public funding, I'll take my search engine code and
build it.

It will take:

$2k~$20K per month for ISP hosting.
$5K per 2U machine, with disk, we'll need about a hundred or two of them.
We'll need a great deal with the ISP for bandwidth, because we will be
crawling 4 billion pages on a regular basis.
We'll need a 24x7 on-line admin
We'll need a few web guys and a couple SQL guys, standard salary.
We could probably launch in 6 months.

[Alan Connor]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:30 GMT, mlw <ml*@nospam.no> wrote:

john bailo wrote:

I microcrap is buying Google --

then I want a GNU search engine !
( Cant that decrepit creep keep his hands off of anything ? )

If you can find the public funding, I'll take my search engine code and
build it.

It will take:

$2k~$20K per month for ISP hosting.
$5K per 2U machine, with disk, we'll need about a hundred or two of them.
We'll need a great deal with the ISP for bandwidth, because we will be
crawling 4 billion pages on a regular basis.
We'll need a 24x7 on-line admin
We'll need a few web guys and a couple SQL guys, standard salary.
We could probably launch in 6 months.

There would be no need for GNUGLE to be available to the general public.

Just to Linux users.

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[Jeff Relf]

Hi John Buy Low , Sell High ,
You whine : " I want a GNU Search Engine "

Wall Street , October 31, 2003
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/money/2599128/detail.html
" Google is meeting with bankers in preparation for
its highly anticipated initial public offering .
The Times reported that Microsoft's overture
appears to have gained little traction
as Google indicates
it still prefers going the IPO route. "

Ask yourself this question John :
" Why has the GNU philosophy continued to fail us ? "

[Barry Margolin]

In article <bn******************@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink .net>,
Alan Connor <xx**@yyy.zzz> wrote:

There would be no need for GNUGLE to be available to the general public.

Just to Linux users.

For a community that promotes freedom and openness, that would be extremely
restrictive.

And how would you even know if a client is a Linux user?

--
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Level(3), Woburn, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.

[john bailo]

Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:12:58 -0800, Jeff Relf,
<1abfaza6f3z2$.dlg@__.Jeff.Relf>

Hi John Buy Low , Sell High ,
You whine : " I want a GNU Search Engine "

Wall Street , October 31, 2003
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/money/2599128/detail.html
" Google is meeting with bankers in preparation for
its highly anticipated initial public offering .
The Times reported that Microsoft's overture
appears to have gained little traction
as Google indicates
it still prefers going the IPO route. "

Ask yourself this question John :
" Why has the GNU philosophy continued to fail us ? "

Why can't you address your posts to the group
instead of to *me* in particular?

Can't you speak like an adult?

If you want to harangue me personally, my email address
is ja*****@earthlink.net.
If you want to propose a general comment, go ahead.

There's plenty of intelligent people here...

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Jeff Relf wrote:

Hi John Buy Low , Sell High ,
You whine : " I want a GNU Search Engine "

Wall Street , October 31, 2003
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/money/2599128/detail.html
" Google is meeting with bankers in preparation for
its highly anticipated initial public offering .
The Times reported that Microsoft's overture
appears to have gained little traction
as Google indicates
it still prefers going the IPO route. "
IPOs are notorious for being manipulated. Microsoft may still end up
with a large enough block of Google stock to control it.
Ask yourself this question John :
" Why has the GNU philosophy continued to fail us ? "

What failure? Linux aside (because it isn't all that there is to GNU
software by a long shot), much of the internet is running on GNU/Open
source software.

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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam. (Translation from latin: "I have a catapult. Give me
all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.")

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Jeff Relf wrote:

[snip]
Ask yourself this question John :
" Why has the GNU philosophy continued to fail us ? "

Ask yourself this question: Seeing as how the basic operating principles
of Google are pretty well known, why can't a software company with a
bottomless R&D budget build their own competing product?

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All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are
Socrates.
-- Woody Allen

[Alan Connor]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:35:15 GMT, Barry Margolin <ba************@level3.com> wrote:

In article <bn******************@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink .net>,
Alan Connor <xx**@yyy.zzz> wrote:

There would be no need for GNUGLE to be available to the general public.

Just to Linux users.
For a community that promotes freedom and openness, that would be extremely
restrictive.

I thought we were promoting Linux.
And how would you even know if a client is a Linux user?

That would be established when they signed up for access to the search
engine.

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[Jeff Relf]

Attention all readers . ( Yes ... Both of you ! )

John Anthony Bailo , M.D.
has asked your royal author ( me ) :
" Why can't you address your posts to the group
instead of to * me * in particular ? "

Why don't you try plonking me ?

[Jeff Relf]

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" why can't a software company
with a bottomless R&D budget
build their own competing product ? "

Because Google is _ Smarter _ than Microsoft ?

Pit Money vs. Smarts and Smarts wins every time .

But that doesn't mean that GNU won and Google lost .

Wiki is an amazingly good concept ,
but _ Some _ money is always need ...
Hence Google beat Wiki .

http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki :
" The first ever wiki site was created for
the Portland Pattern Repository in 1995 .
That site now hosts tens of thousands of pages . "

[Jeff Relf]

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" Much of the internet
is running on GNU / Open source software . "

Yes , Including Google itself .

But Google is doing an IPO ...

What works , works ... Why be a purist at all costs ?

Bailo loves playing the martyr ...
Like that drunk I saw the other day
saying " I'm Jesus ! I'm Jesus ! "
as the campus cops handcuffed him .

[jbailo]

poster->Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET>

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" Much of the internet
is running on GNU / Open source software . "

Yes , Including Google itself .

But Google is doing an IPO ...

What works , works ... Why be a purist at all costs ?

Bailo loves playing the martyr ...
Like that drunk I saw the other day
saying " I'm Jesus ! I'm Jesus ! "
as the campus cops handcuffed him .

GET OFF MY ASS

[jbailo]

poster->Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET>

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" why can't a software company
with a bottomless R&D budget
build their own competing product ? "

Because Google is _ Smarter _ than Microsoft ?

Pit Money vs. Smarts and Smarts wins every time .

But that doesn't mean that GNU won and Google lost .

Wiki is an amazingly good concept ,
but _ Some _ money is always need ...
Hence Google beat Wiki .

http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki :
" The first ever wiki site was created for
the Portland Pattern Repository in 1995 .
That site now hosts tens of thousands of pages . "

spam bayes proves the concept...

implementation is putting it into a search engine.

GNU search will win ultimately...

[Jeff Relf]

Hi Bailo ,
You prophesy : " GNU search will win ultimately ... "

So why isn't GNU winning _ Now _ ?

[jbailo]

poster->Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET>

i can't win, so i dis

true.

[Jeff Relf]

[ This message was both posted and e-mailed ]

Hi Bailo , You say : " GET OFF MY ASS . "

What exactly do you want me to do ?

Just give me the word ... and I'll plonk you .

[jbailo]

poster->Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET>

"tis"

True.

[Rick]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:25:26 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote:

Attention all readers . ( Yes ... Both of you ! )

John Anthony Bailo , M.D.
has asked your royal author ( me ) :
" Why can't you address your posts to the group
instead of to * me * in particular ? "

Why don't you try plonking me ?

Idiot
--
Rick

[jbailo]

poster->Rick <ri**@none.com>

Idiot

..T.

[Alan Connor]

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 07:13:34 GMT, Rick <ri**@none.com> wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:25:26 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote:

Attention all readers . ( Yes ... Both of you ! )

John Anthony Bailo , M.D.
has asked your royal author ( me ) :
" Why can't you address your posts to the group
instead of to * me * in particular ? "

Why don't you try plonking me ?

Idiot
--
Rick

I just checked my kill.log. My anti-troll utility has killed around 20
posts from that bozo.

Judging from the above I'm not missing a thing.

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[David Kastrup]

Alan Connor <zz****@xxx.yyy> writes:

Barry Margolin wrote:

Alan Connor <xx**@yyy.zzz> wrote:

There would be no need for GNUGLE to be available to the general
public.

Just to Linux users.

For a community that promotes freedom and openness, that would be
extremely restrictive.

I thought we were promoting Linux.

Look where you are crossposting to. This includes gnu.misc.discuss,
seattle.general (for whatever reason, I am taking this out of the
followup list), microsoft.public.dotnet.general (also taken out since
I can't imagine why this topic would be of interest there).

But let's talk about gnu.misc.discuss here: it has always been the
stance of the GNU project to promote freedom also to those that have
to work in unfree environment. More than a decade, GNU tools ran
exclusively on proprietary platforms (the whole autoconf business is
born from that).

Nowadays the situation is such that the FSF does not invest any of
their own resources into proprietary platform support, but they
certainly don't keep others from doing so, and they don't wilfully
cripple their software to fetter in other people to free software.

Apart from which, there is now an abundance of other free systems,
like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and things like that, and it would certainly
not be the policy of the GNU project to keep people from using them.

Then search engine technology like Google _naturally_ is based on
existing Web technology. There is no point into creating something
that would not work with browsers regardless of underlying operating
system platform.

And how would you even know if a client is a Linux user?

That would be established when they signed up for access to the
search engine.

You are promoting a _very_ discriminatory stance, denying other
people access to technology out of sheer spite instead of technical
necessity.

That's not what freedom is about.

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Jeff Relf wrote:

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" why can't a software company
with a bottomless R&D budget
build their own competing product ? "

Because Google is _ Smarter _ than Microsoft ?
Actually, no.

Microsoft essentially has a bottomless pit of money and has hired some
very talented people. I suspect that the mere existence of Google, or
any other search engine that ranks pages purely based on content
interferes with Microsoft's business model. That model is:

If you ever want your page to be found, pay me. The more you pay, the
better a score it gets. Since there are no alternatives (we bought them
all), you will pay, or starve.
Pit Money vs. Smarts and Smarts wins every time .

But that doesn't mean that GNU won and Google lost .
Everything comes down to money. GNU wins because it is good and it is
cheaper. Google wins because it is good and cheaper as well. Cheaper in
this case is the amount that page owners must pay to be listed, which is
zero. As a result, they have no 'Microsoft tax' to pass on to their
customers.
Wiki is an amazingly good concept ,
but _ Some _ money is always need ...
Hence Google beat Wiki .
Wiki is 'free', but since it operates on a slightly different model, the
effort to use it (both as a page owner and a page user) is slightly
higher.

Wiki works very well in situations where information creators must take
the time to enter their data into some sort of structure anyway.
http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki :
" The first ever wiki site was created for
the Portland Pattern Repository in 1995 .
That site now hosts tens of thousands of pages . "

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[news.microsoft.com]

Google doesnt just rank based on content, its also got PAID ranking.
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Pa**@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:3F***************@Hovnanian.com...

Jeff Relf wrote:

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" why can't a software company
with a bottomless R&D budget
build their own competing product ? "

Because Google is _ Smarter _ than Microsoft ?

Actually, no.

Microsoft essentially has a bottomless pit of money and has hired some
very talented people. I suspect that the mere existence of Google, or
any other search engine that ranks pages purely based on content
interferes with Microsoft's business model. That model is:

If you ever want your page to be found, pay me. The more you pay, the
better a score it gets. Since there are no alternatives (we bought them
all), you will pay, or starve.

Pit Money vs. Smarts and Smarts wins every time .

But that doesn't mean that GNU won and Google lost .

Everything comes down to money. GNU wins because it is good and it is
cheaper. Google wins because it is good and cheaper as well. Cheaper in
this case is the amount that page owners must pay to be listed, which is
zero. As a result, they have no 'Microsoft tax' to pass on to their
customers.

Wiki is an amazingly good concept ,
but _ Some _ money is always need ...
Hence Google beat Wiki .

Wiki is 'free', but since it operates on a slightly different model, the
effort to use it (both as a page owner and a page user) is slightly
higher.

Wiki works very well in situations where information creators must take
the time to enter their data into some sort of structure anyway.

http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki :
" The first ever wiki site was created for
the Portland Pattern Repository in 1995 .
That site now hosts tens of thousands of pages . "

--
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note to spammers: a Washington State resident
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On a clear desk, you can sleep forever.

[Buford]

Barry Margolin wrote:

In article <bn******************@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink .net>,
Alan Connor <xx**@yyy.zzz> wrote:

There would be no need for GNUGLE to be available to the general public.

Just to Linux users.
For a community that promotes freedom and openness, that would be
extremely restrictive.

Agreed.
And how would you even know if a client is a Linux user?

Good question. Maybe Microsoft would soon add code to IE (or winsock or
something) that would prevent Windows users from connecting to that site.
You could then at least be sure that it wasn't a Windows user. :)

--
Buford

[jbailo]

poster->"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Pa**@Hovnanian.com>

Microsoft essentially has a bottomless pit of money and has hired some
very talented people. I suspect that the mere existence of Google, or
any other search engine that ranks pages purely based on content
interferes with Microsoft's business model. That model is:

(a) not 'bottomless' you are simply viewing a local maximum.

(b) the 'web model' of 'free information' interferes with them. this
model -- similar to the GNU model ( which takes it to its
ultimate conclusion, and hence evolutionarily will supercede
all other models ) makes software a function of information
delivery. therefore, the cost of software can float to zero or
below in the effort to deliver content, and the content creates
the value.

(c) microsoft cannot hold market dominance with a 'software'
monopoly because of (b) -- and as it tries to convert to a
'content' seller it puts itself into a horse race with players
who have a lot more 'smarts' and savvy than they do.

(d) at this point, ms is basically a 'bottleneck' -- it is
the old wife of computerdom that will not grant computers
a divorce so they can join the GNU world of free software.
So it continues to harange, interfere and bother people even
though it's usefulness ended int 1995 with the ascendency
of the Web economy.

(e) Is 50 billion not enough alimony for Bill?

We will see...

[Joe Fineman]

Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET> writes:

Pit Money vs. Smarts and Smarts wins every time .

The comparison may not be appreciated in all quarters, but back when
Rockefeller & Nixon were battling for the Republican nomination, Bill
Mauldin published a cartoon series of which the first showed Rocky
with a pile of chips in front of him, and Dicky shuffling the cards.
The caption was "Assets".
--
--- Joe Fineman jc*@TheWorld.com

||: The best includes the beginning of the decline. :||

[Jeff Relf]

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" I suspect that the mere existence of Google ,
or any other search engine that ranks pages
purely based on content interferes with
Microsoft's business model . "

Wiki is shear brilliance ...
No amount of money can't even compete with them .

The people running Google make Bill Gates look like a retard .

They were smart enough to wait before doing their IPO .

They forgoed buying mansions , yachts , and muscle cars .
Instead they peddled their bicycles to work .

And they were Linux enthusiasts .

Gates needs a billion dollars just to wipe his ass .

I've discovered that a " Free " e-mail / news client ,
40tude Dialog , beats the crap out of outlook express .
( At least as far as I am concerned )

Why ?
Because many of Microsoft's programmers are millionaires .
They're too busy sailing their yachts to come into Usenet
like Marcus Mönnig does . ( Marcus is Dialog's author )

Smarts trumps money ... Every time .

[Jeff Relf]

Oops ! I wrote :
" Instead they peddled their bicycles to work . "

Make that " Pedalled " .

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

"news.microsoft.com" wrote:

Google doesnt just rank based on content, its also got PAID ranking.

Googles sponsored links are quite clearly marked as such. As long as
they are honest about them, I don't have a problem with their trying to
generate some revenue. Any other forms of payment for position in a
legitimate search engine are unethical.

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note to spammers: a Washington State resident
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[jbailo]

poster->Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET>

The people running Google make Bill Gates look like a retard .

They were smart enough to wait before doing their IPO .

They forgoed buying mansions , yachts , and muscle cars .
Instead they peddled their bicycles to work .

the one luxury they afford themselfs is
good food. every Google employee can
eat lunch at a cafeteria staffed by a Gourmet
chef...sure beats the blivet burger...

check out this blog:
http://googlemenus.blogspot.com/
ps -- most people who work for microsoft
are contract employees who are treated
like *shit* -- they are routinely lied
to by the 'permanent' managers, sexually
harassed and threated with their jobs.

They are promised full time jobs that
never materialize and then if projects
go downhill they are blamed..

basically Bill Gate$ the Creep is propped
up by a lot of young cannon fodder....

[Andy Baxter]

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 05:20:47 +0000, jbailo wrote:

poster->Jeff Relf <__**********@NCPlus.NET>
ps -- most people who work for microsoft
are contract employees who are treated
like *shit* -- they are routinely lied
to by the 'permanent' managers, sexually
harassed and threated with their jobs.

They are promised full time jobs that
never materialize and then if projects
go downhill they are blamed..

basically Bill Gate$ the Creep is propped
up by a lot of young cannon fodder....

There's some stuff on this in the Naomi Klein book ('No Logo') I was
talking about in another thread. Apparently Microsoft were worried that
temp workers might start claiming employment rights because many of them
had been there so long, so they ruled that MS funded
social events were out of bounds to temp workers.

andy.

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[Kingbarry2000]

"Rick" <ri**@none.com> wrote in message
news:pa****************************@none.com...

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:25:26 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote:

Attention all readers . ( Yes ... Both of you ! )

John Anthony Bailo , M.D.
has asked your royal author ( me ) :
" Why can't you address your posts to the group
instead of to * me * in particular ? "

Why don't you try plonking me ?

Idiot
--
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Brilliant comeback. I believe that the word 'Idiot' has a patent pending in
this ng ?

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[Alan Connor]

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:43:18 -0800, Paul Hovnanian P.E. <Pa**@Hovnanian.com> wrote:

"news.microsoft.com" wrote:

Google doesnt just rank based on content, its also got PAID ranking.

Googles sponsored links are quite clearly marked as such. As long as
they are honest about them, I don't have a problem with their trying to
generate some revenue. Any other forms of payment for position in a
legitimate search engine are unethical.

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The large print giveth and the small print taketh away.
-- Tom Waits

So spammers have to obey the rules but you don't? (the limit on sigs
is 4 lines, which I am SURE that you know).

Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary.

Killfiled for 30 days.

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[Daniel Rudy]

Somewhere around the time of 10/31/2003 19:54, the world stopped and
listened as Jeff Relf contributed this to humanity:

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" Much of the internet
is running on GNU / Open source software . "

Yes , Including Google itself .

But Google is doing an IPO ...

What works , works ... Why be a purist at all costs ?

Bailo loves playing the martyr ...
Like that drunk I saw the other day
saying " I'm Jesus ! I'm Jesus ! "
as the campus cops handcuffed him .

Look, I don't know what your marital dispute with jbailo is, but take it
to email instead of the group.

Oh, and you're an idiot too.

Now FOAD!

--
Daniel Rudy

Remove nospam, invalid, and 0123456789 to reply.

[Daniel Rudy]

Somewhere around the time of 10/31/2003 17:22, the world stopped and
listened as Paul Hovnanian P.E. contributed this to humanity:

Jeff Relf wrote:

[snip]

Ask yourself this question John :
" Why has the GNU philosophy continued to fail us ? "

Ask yourself this question: Seeing as how the basic operating principles
of Google are pretty well known, why can't a software company with a
bottomless R&D budget build their own competing product?

Actually, they tried and failed. Look at MSN search for a case in point.

--
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Remove nospam, invalid, and 0123456789 to reply.

[Peter Köhlmann]

Kingbarry2000 wrote:

"Rick" <ri**@none.com> wrote in message
news:pa****************************@none.com...

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:25:26 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote:

> Attention all readers . ( Yes ... Both of you ! )
>
> John Anthony Bailo , M.D.
> has asked your royal author ( me ) :
> " Why can't you address your posts to the group
> instead of to * me * in particular ? "
>
> Why don't you try plonking me ?

Idiot
--
Rick

Brilliant comeback. I believe that the word 'Idiot' has a patent pending
in this ng ?

No. It i just that this NG attracts lots of people where the minimal
description would be "idiot". It will quite often not be enough, so instead
"moron" or "cretin" is more appropriate, but using any more words would
just waste them

BTW, you are an idiot
--
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[Mark Gary]

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 07:21:51 +0000, Daniel Rudy wrote:

Somewhere around the time of 10/31/2003 19:54, the world stopped and
listened as Jeff Relf contributed this to humanity:

Hi Paul Hovnanian P.E. ,
You say :
" Much of the internet
is running on GNU / Open source software . "

Yes , Including Google itself .

But Google is doing an IPO ...

What works , works ... Why be a purist at all costs ?

Bailo loves playing the martyr ...
Like that drunk I saw the other day
saying " I'm Jesus ! I'm Jesus ! "
as the campus cops handcuffed him .

Look, I don't know what your marital dispute with jbailo is, but take it
to email instead of the group.

Oh, and you're an idiot too.

Now FOAD!

He *is* jbailo. Only he would xposts to seattle.general for no reason
whatsever & screems stupid subject lines like this one. He's posting through a
different route, thats all.

--
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Registered Linux User #329755 - http://counter.li.org
If you must email me then address to :
uk.co.demon.mwgary.nospam@mark (just reverse it and remove nospam)

[Jeff Relf]

Hi jbailo ,
You cite Google's lunch menu :
http://googlemenus.blogspot.com/

Hmmm . I " Cook " very simply .

Nothing more complex than a steak and frozen vegetables .

[Linønut]

While restarting Outlook, Alan Connor grumbled:

Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary.

Killfiled for 30 days.

Killfile me, too, okay?

--
Windows desktops and servers can find a safe haven on a
GNU/Linux/FreeBSD network!

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Daniel Rudy wrote:

Somewhere around the time of 10/31/2003 17:22, the world stopped and
listened as Paul Hovnanian P.E. contributed this to humanity:

Jeff Relf wrote:

[snip]

Ask yourself this question John :
" Why has the GNU philosophy continued to fail us ? "

Ask yourself this question: Seeing as how the basic operating principles
of Google are pretty well known, why can't a software company with a
bottomless R&D budget build their own competing product?

Actually, they tried and failed. Look at MSN search for a case in point.

It was their business plan that failed. Very few web site owners are
willing to pay for a position in a search engine. Particularly when free
alternatives (like Google) exist.

That's why Microsoft needs to 'partner' with Google.

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Tech support: Do you have any windows open right now?
Customer: Are you crazy? Its twenty below out!

[Andy Baxter]

At earth time Sun, 02 Nov 2003 07:29:00 -0800, the entity known as Paul
Hovnanian P.E. made the following transmission:

Daniel Rudy wrote: Tech support: Do you have any windows open right now?
Customer: Are you crazy? Its twenty below out!

Have you heard the one that goes like this:

Customer: I want to return my computer because it's not well made.
Tech support: What's the problem exactly?
Customer: Well I put my mug on the coffee cup holder and it just broke
clean off. I think you guys should build things properly if you want
people to buy them.
Tech support: <puzzled> What coffee cup holder is that? <pause> Ah, I see,
is that the coffee cup holder that conveniently slides out when you press
a button on the front of the case?

andy.

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: Alan Connor <zz****@xxx.yyy>
: Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary.

I did. There's a picture of Alan Connor as illustration.

[Stefan Monnier]

>> And how would you even know if a client is a Linux user?

That would be established when they signed up for access to the search
engine.

The question was "how", not "when".
Also, if you require people to sign up, I expect you'll see much
fewer users. Might be a good plan if you want to reduce the load
even further. But at some point the load of search requested will be so
small that it'll be difficult to justify the load created by crawling the
web and storing the resulting index.
Stefan