C# struct Constructors As Shown in IntelliSense? (M'soft Rep PLease)

[Peter van der Goes]

When a struct is created in C# and a parameterized constructor defined, the
IntelliSense editor shows only the syntax for the parameterized constructor
in tooltips, but not for the default constructor which appears to still
exist. If this is not designed behavior, is it a bug or am I misusing my
struct?
If it is by design, could you please explain? I realize the behavior of a
struct, as regards constructors, is different from that of classes in that a
class will not retain an automatically defined default constructor if a
parameterized constructor is defined by the programmer. The tooltip for
struct constructor options seems to be following the rules for a class?
I'm a bit confused, and any help getting straight would be much appreciated!

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Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[4Space]

Quoting MSDN:

"It is an error to declare a default (parameterless) constructor for a
struct. A default constructor is always provided to initialize the struct
members to their default values."

The gist is that you can't override what the default constructor does. The
framework is boss :)

Cheers,

4Space

"Peter van der Goes" <p_**********@mars.cox.net> wrote in message
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When a struct is created in C# and a parameterized constructor defined, the IntelliSense editor shows only the syntax for the parameterized constructor in tooltips, but not for the default constructor which appears to still
exist. If this is not designed behavior, is it a bug or am I misusing my
struct?
If it is by design, could you please explain? I realize the behavior of a
struct, as regards constructors, is different from that of classes in that a class will not retain an automatically defined default constructor if a
parameterized constructor is defined by the programmer. The tooltip for
struct constructor options seems to be following the rules for a class?
I'm a bit confused, and any help getting straight would be much appreciated!
--
Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[news.microsoft.com]

It SHOULD show the default one the system uses as its AVAILABLE to the
instantiator.

Its an intellisense bug. THey just dont admit it.

If its available to the caller it should be visible to on the intellisense,
if they say otherwise, theyre talkin crrap

"Peter van der Goes" <p_**********@mars.cox.net> wrote in message
news:eA**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

When a struct is created in C# and a parameterized constructor defined, the IntelliSense editor shows only the syntax for the parameterized constructor in tooltips, but not for the default constructor which appears to still
exist. If this is not designed behavior, is it a bug or am I misusing my
struct?
If it is by design, could you please explain? I realize the behavior of a
struct, as regards constructors, is different from that of classes in that a class will not retain an automatically defined default constructor if a
parameterized constructor is defined by the programmer. The tooltip for
struct constructor options seems to be following the rules for a class?
I'm a bit confused, and any help getting straight would be much appreciated!
--
Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[news.microsoft.com]

You must init ALL member fields on a param constructor, but intellisense
does have a bug on not displaying the default constructor for the
instantiator.

You CAN have a line like...

SomeStruct somethingStructure = new SomeStruct();

You dont define the default constructor the system does on structs. But
intelilsense SHOULD show the availability of the default constructor on the
above line but it doesnt. Its saying its not available yet it is. BUG.
"Peter van der Goes" <p_**********@mars.cox.net> wrote in message
news:eA**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

When a struct is created in C# and a parameterized constructor defined, the IntelliSense editor shows only the syntax for the parameterized constructor in tooltips, but not for the default constructor which appears to still
exist. If this is not designed behavior, is it a bug or am I misusing my
struct?
If it is by design, could you please explain? I realize the behavior of a
struct, as regards constructors, is different from that of classes in that a class will not retain an automatically defined default constructor if a
parameterized constructor is defined by the programmer. The tooltip for
struct constructor options seems to be following the rules for a class?
I'm a bit confused, and any help getting straight would be much appreciated!
--
Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[Peter van der Goes]

"news.microsoft.com" <an********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eg**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

It SHOULD show the default one the system uses as its AVAILABLE to the
instantiator.

Its an intellisense bug. THey just dont admit it.

If its available to the caller it should be visible to on the intellisense, if they say otherwise, theyre talkin crrap

I'm afraid I have to be a bit blunt here.
I reposted your issue in a different thread to elicit a response from a
Microsoft rep by eliminating the combative rhetoric. Statements like "they
just don't admit it" with no evidence to support such an accusation, are not
going to help get an answer.

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Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[news.microsoft.com]

When I get pissass excuses back like "By design" etc thats just a lazy
halfarsed implentation.

"Peter van der Goes" <p_**********@mars.cox.net> wrote in message
news:#x**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

"news.microsoft.com" <an********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:eg**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

It SHOULD show the default one the system uses as its AVAILABLE to the
instantiator.

Its an intellisense bug. THey just dont admit it.

If its available to the caller it should be visible to on the intellisense,

if they say otherwise, theyre talkin crrap

I'm afraid I have to be a bit blunt here.
I reposted your issue in a different thread to elicit a response from a
Microsoft rep by eliminating the combative rhetoric. Statements like "they
just don't admit it" with no evidence to support such an accusation, are

not going to help get an answer.

--
Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[Peter van der Goes]

"4Space" <4S****@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:SE**********************@news.easynews.com...

Quoting MSDN:

"It is an error to declare a default (parameterless) constructor for a
struct. A default constructor is always provided to initialize the struct
members to their default values."

The gist is that you can't override what the default constructor does. The
framework is boss :)

Cheers,

4Space

Yes, I'm aware of that.
The issue is why the tooltips in the intellisense editor don't show the
retained default version in the case of a struct vs. a class. If a
parameterized constructor is declared in a class definition, the
compiler-supplied default constructor is not retained, and the programmer
must write one if it's needed. In a struct, the compiler-supplied default is
retained after declaration of a parameterized constructor, but its prototype
doesn't show up as an option in the tooltip.
Not exactly a showstopper, but the behavior as reported can be replicated.

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Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[Willy Denoyette [MVP]]

You are right it's a known bug.

Willy.

"news.microsoft.com" <an********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

You must init ALL member fields on a param constructor, but intellisense
does have a bug on not displaying the default constructor for the
instantiator.

You CAN have a line like...

SomeStruct somethingStructure = new SomeStruct();

You dont define the default constructor the system does on structs. But
intelilsense SHOULD show the availability of the default constructor on the
above line but it doesnt. Its saying its not available yet it is. BUG.
"Peter van der Goes" <p_**********@mars.cox.net> wrote in message
news:eA**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

When a struct is created in C# and a parameterized constructor defined,

the

IntelliSense editor shows only the syntax for the parameterized

constructor

in tooltips, but not for the default constructor which appears to still
exist. If this is not designed behavior, is it a bug or am I misusing my
struct?
If it is by design, could you please explain? I realize the behavior of a
struct, as regards constructors, is different from that of classes in that

a

class will not retain an automatically defined default constructor if a
parameterized constructor is defined by the programmer. The tooltip for
struct constructor options seems to be following the rules for a class?
I'm a bit confused, and any help getting straight would be much

appreciated!

--
Peter - [MVP - Academic]

[codymanix]

Every struct in c# has a default constructor available and you cannot
override or hide it. what sense would it make to show it in intellisense?

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[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

codymanix <do*********************@gmx.de> wrote:

Every struct in c# has a default constructor available and you cannot
override or hide it. what sense would it make to show it in intellisense?

Intellisense should show you what's available to call. When you've got
as far as new DateTime( then the parameterless constructor should be
one of the options available.

It's not as big a deal as is being made out here, but it's not the
desired behaviour IMO.

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[Jack Mayhoff [MSFT]]

Obviously you do not understand the purpose of Intellisense.

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"codymanix" <do*********************@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Every struct in c# has a default constructor available and you cannot
override or hide it. what sense would it make to show it in intellisense?

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cody

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[cody]

> Obviously you do not understand the purpose of Intellisense.

intellisense is for help you typing. but in this case intellisense will pop
up when you already typed the whole line just the () are missing

S s = new S(

here at this point, intellisense will pop up. what is the gain? it will help
me writing the closing parenthese!

the second purpose of intellisense is that it informs you about the members
of a class. in the case somebody really doesn't know that a struct always
must have a default ctor maybe.

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[Jack Mayhoff [MSFT]]

Its a bug. It should still popup the ToolTip for the default ctor.

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"cody" <de********@gmx.net> wrote in message
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Obviously you do not understand the purpose of Intellisense.
intellisense is for help you typing. but in this case intellisense will

pop up when you already typed the whole line just the () are missing

S s = new S(

here at this point, intellisense will pop up. what is the gain? it will help me writing the closing parenthese!

the second purpose of intellisense is that it informs you about the members of a class. in the case somebody really doesn't know that a struct always
must have a default ctor maybe.

--
cody

Freeware Tools, Games and Humour
http://www.deutronium.de.vu
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