Visual studial standart & express

[Lloyd Dupont]

I'm about to buy VS.NET2005 standart edition which fits my need very well.
What would be better though (cheaper and same feature, but I haven't tried)
is to buy C++ express & C# express.
If I buy both of these, could I have a mixed project (and debugging)
experience with native C++, .NET C++ & C#, all together?
Or do I need to go for the standart edition?

--
Regards,
Lloyd Dupont

NovaMind development team
NovaMind Software
Mind Mapping Software
<www.nova-mind.com>

[Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]]

Lloyd Dupont wrote:

I'm about to buy VS.NET2005 standart edition which fits my need very
well. What would be better though (cheaper and same feature, but I
haven't tried) is to buy C++ express & C# express.
If I buy both of these, could I have a mixed project (and debugging)
experience with native C++, .NET C++ & C#, all together?
Or do I need to go for the standart edition?

Good question! I'd like to know the real answer, but...

I've never installed any of the Express editions, but I gather that they're
meant to work side by side, not to integrate into a composite Visual Studio
if you install more than one.

There are a few features in Standard Edition that you don't get with the
express products too. The one I'm using the most: the Class Designer. I
find that I do maybe 75% of my interface/structure design using the class
designer directly instead of creating the code from scratch or generating
code from UML.

-cd

[Lloyd Dupont]

ho, class designer is not in express?
that settled then ;-)

Although I should say, even though I like this class designer I am old
school (don't use it much).
If I'm in "design mode" (which is, arguably, not often) I tend to write
multiple empty method myself (with the keyboard)...

"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cp*****************************@mvps.org.nospam >
wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

Lloyd Dupont wrote:

I'm about to buy VS.NET2005 standart edition which fits my need very
well. What would be better though (cheaper and same feature, but I
haven't tried) is to buy C++ express & C# express.
If I buy both of these, could I have a mixed project (and debugging)
experience with native C++, .NET C++ & C#, all together?
Or do I need to go for the standart edition?

Good question! I'd like to know the real answer, but...

I've never installed any of the Express editions, but I gather that
they're meant to work side by side, not to integrate into a composite
Visual Studio if you install more than one.

There are a few features in Standard Edition that you don't get with the
express products too. The one I'm using the most: the Class Designer. I
find that I do maybe 75% of my interface/structure design using the class
designer directly instead of creating the code from scratch or generating
code from UML.

-cd

[Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) - MVP]

How much work do you want? You can buy the express products and save money,
but you will have to do a lot of the work to reference things together as you
cannot contain these projects in a single solution. If this is not an issue,
and will not destroy your productivity, go for it. I would head towards the
unified approach personally, but each one of us has our own priorities.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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"Lloyd Dupont" wrote:

I'm about to buy VS.NET2005 standart edition which fits my need very well.
What would be better though (cheaper and same feature, but I haven't tried)
is to buy C++ express & C# express.
If I buy both of these, could I have a mixed project (and debugging)
experience with native C++, .NET C++ & C#, all together?
Or do I need to go for the standart edition?

--
Regards,
Lloyd Dupont

NovaMind development team
NovaMind Software
Mind Mapping Software
<www.nova-mind.com>

[Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) - MVP]

I am also not fully sure the class designer is in Standard, it may be a
Professional thing. As this is an "I don't know" post, it would be prudent to
read the descriptions and make an informed decision.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

***************************
Think Outside the Box!
***************************
"Lloyd Dupont" wrote:

ho, class designer is not in express?
that settled then ;-)

Although I should say, even though I like this class designer I am old
school (don't use it much).
If I'm in "design mode" (which is, arguably, not often) I tend to write
multiple empty method myself (with the keyboard)...

"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cp*****************************@mvps.org.nospam >
wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

Lloyd Dupont wrote:

I'm about to buy VS.NET2005 standart edition which fits my need very
well. What would be better though (cheaper and same feature, but I
haven't tried) is to buy C++ express & C# express.
If I buy both of these, could I have a mixed project (and debugging)
experience with native C++, .NET C++ & C#, all together?
Or do I need to go for the standart edition?

Good question! I'd like to know the real answer, but...

I've never installed any of the Express editions, but I gather that
they're meant to work side by side, not to integrate into a composite
Visual Studio if you install more than one.

There are a few features in Standard Edition that you don't get with the
express products too. The one I'm using the most: the Class Designer. I
find that I do maybe 75% of my interface/structure design using the class
designer directly instead of creating the code from scratch or generating
code from UML.

-cd

[Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]]

Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) - MVP wrote:

I am also not fully sure the class designer is in Standard, it may be
a Professional thing. As this is an "I don't know" post, it would be
prudent to read the descriptions and make an informed decision.

I don't "know" fur sure either, having never installed VS Standard, but it's
my understanding that Class Designer was to be included there. Hopefully
someone who's installed it can confirm!

-cd

[Willy Denoyette [MVP]]

"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cp*****************************@mvps.org.nospam >
wrote in message news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) - MVP wrote:

I am also not fully sure the class designer is in Standard, it may be
a Professional thing. As this is an "I don't know" post, it would be
prudent to read the descriptions and make an informed decision.

I don't "know" fur sure either, having never installed VS Standard, but
it's my understanding that Class Designer was to be included there.
Hopefully someone who's installed it can confirm!

-cd

Did not install it but according this:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005...e/default.aspx
it should include the Class Designer.

Willy.

[Lloyd Dupont]

hehe..
you've got a funny writing style!
don't cry, I already agreed you before you write ;-)

"Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) - MVP" <No************@comcast.netNoSpamM> wrote
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How much work do you want? You can buy the express products and save
money,
but you will have to do a lot of the work to reference things together as
you
cannot contain these projects in a single solution. If this is not an
issue,
and will not destroy your productivity, go for it. I would head towards
the
unified approach personally, but each one of us has our own priorities.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

***************************
Think Outside the Box!
***************************
"Lloyd Dupont" wrote:

I'm about to buy VS.NET2005 standart edition which fits my need very
well.
What would be better though (cheaper and same feature, but I haven't
tried)
is to buy C++ express & C# express.
If I buy both of these, could I have a mixed project (and debugging)
experience with native C++, .NET C++ & C#, all together?
Or do I need to go for the standart edition?

--
Regards,
Lloyd Dupont

NovaMind development team
NovaMind Software
Mind Mapping Software
<www.nova-mind.com>