.NET selling points

[Dmitry Duginov]

Hi!

My company management considering the strategy for new software development
using J2EE or .NET platform. Can anybody point to a good article with the
list of .NET advantages over Java that I could use in such a discussion? I'm
a .NET developer but I have very small Java experience, so in many cases I
cannot provide fair comparison.

Is there anyone here who switched from Java to .NET recently? If so, could
you share your experience? Anyone who switched from .NET to Java? ;)

Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. And I'm mostly interested in
facts that cannot be freely interpreted depending of which platform you
prefer personally.

Regards,
D.

[Kevin Yu [MSFT]]

Hi Dmitry,

Here is a comparison between .NET and J2EE.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ja...e/default.aspx

For more information about this, please check the following link:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/java/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...us/dndotnet/ht
ml/dotnet_movingjavaapps.asp

Kevin Yu
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"Dmitry Duginov" <di**@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:OD**************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

Hi!

My company management considering the strategy for new software
development
using J2EE or .NET platform. Can anybody point to a good article with the
list of .NET advantages over Java that I could use in such a discussion?
I'm
a .NET developer but I have very small Java experience, so in many cases I
cannot provide fair comparison.

Is there anyone here who switched from Java to .NET recently? If so, could
you share your experience? Anyone who switched from .NET to Java? ;)

Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. And I'm mostly interested in
facts that cannot be freely interpreted depending of which platform you
prefer personally.

Regards,
D.

[Flip]

> Is there anyone here who switched from Java to .NET recently? If so, could

you share your experience? Anyone who switched from .NET to Java? ;) I'm doing j2ee at work and .NET/C# at home. My experience with java is with
several j2ee servers (Tomcat, JBoss, WebLogic, Sybase's Jaguar, Resin) on
linux and on Windows.

First off let me say I MUCH prefer doing dev with .NET/C#. Why? Cause I
can concentrate on what I want to do, not how I'm going to do it. The main
difference with j2ee/java vs .NET/C# is in java you spend a lot time
developing the framework/architecture/structure/etc. In .NET you just use
what you've got and go! You spend time concentrating/developing your web
sites, your thick clients, your services, your security, etc.

Another angle to this is the level of integration with your tools. Given
JBuilder, WebLogic, MyMQL running on Red Hat linux (production) and Win2K
(Development), just getting them integrated and deployed took over a month!
That is HORRIBLE! This was at home after work, but the magnitude of time
spend was horrible. Doing the same thing with Visual Studio 2k3, IIS, SQL
Server, Win2k3 (Prod) and XP (dev) took hours! Yup, from a month down to
hours, now that's integration! From Visual Studio, one tool, I can admin my
db and my code! Now that's integration. No need to ensure the JDBC
drivers are on the path, restarting the server, putting the JDBC jars into
some IDE library/path/structure.

The other BIG thing is GUI development for your webpages. JBuilder, a
5Grand tool doesn't let you do it. VS does!
Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. And I'm mostly interested in
facts that cannot be freely interpreted depending of which platform you

Unfortunately for you, these are my opinions, however after you look around
a bit, I'm confident you will come to the same conclusions.

Good luck.

[Dmitry Duginov]

Thank you for response!

D.

"Flip" <ph******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

Is there anyone here who switched from Java to .NET recently? If so, could you share your experience? Anyone who switched from .NET to Java? ;) I'm doing j2ee at work and .NET/C# at home. My experience with java is

with several j2ee servers (Tomcat, JBoss, WebLogic, Sybase's Jaguar, Resin) on
linux and on Windows.

First off let me say I MUCH prefer doing dev with .NET/C#. Why? Cause I
can concentrate on what I want to do, not how I'm going to do it. The main difference with j2ee/java vs .NET/C# is in java you spend a lot time
developing the framework/architecture/structure/etc. In .NET you just use
what you've got and go! You spend time concentrating/developing your web
sites, your thick clients, your services, your security, etc.

Another angle to this is the level of integration with your tools. Given
JBuilder, WebLogic, MyMQL running on Red Hat linux (production) and Win2K
(Development), just getting them integrated and deployed took over a month! That is HORRIBLE! This was at home after work, but the magnitude of time
spend was horrible. Doing the same thing with Visual Studio 2k3, IIS, SQL
Server, Win2k3 (Prod) and XP (dev) took hours! Yup, from a month down to
hours, now that's integration! From Visual Studio, one tool, I can admin my db and my code! Now that's integration. No need to ensure the JDBC
drivers are on the path, restarting the server, putting the JDBC jars into
some IDE library/path/structure.

The other BIG thing is GUI development for your webpages. JBuilder, a
5Grand tool doesn't let you do it. VS does!

Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. And I'm mostly interested in
facts that cannot be freely interpreted depending of which platform you Unfortunately for you, these are my opinions, however after you look

around a bit, I'm confident you will come to the same conclusions.

Good luck.

[John A. Bailo]

I work in both environments:

For j2ee, I use weblogic 8 and eclipse 3.1

For .net its studio

Up until a few months ago, for any type of business use it would be .NET
hands down, however, Eclipse/Tomcat and the new web enabled 3.1 shows me
that I can develop web services, rich clients and so on in either platform.

Right now, I'm seriously questioning whether to keep on the path of
VS2005 or just converting entirely to Eclipse/java.

The cost advantages are obvious.
Dmitry Duginov wrote:

Hi!

My company management considering the strategy for new software development
using J2EE or .NET platform. Can anybody point to a good article with the
list of .NET advantages over Java that I could use in such a discussion? I'm
a .NET developer but I have very small Java experience, so in many cases I
cannot provide fair comparison.

Is there anyone here who switched from Java to .NET recently? If so, could
you share your experience? Anyone who switched from .NET to Java? ;)

Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. And I'm mostly interested in
facts that cannot be freely interpreted depending of which platform you
prefer personally.

Regards,
D.

[Dmitry Duginov]

"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:ux**************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

http://java.oreilly.com/news/farley_0800.html

....
by Jim Farley
08/01/2000

Outdated long ago...

D.
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Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling
everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"Dmitry Duginov" <di**@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:OD**************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

Hi!

My company management considering the strategy for new software
development
using J2EE or .NET platform. Can anybody point to a good article with the list of .NET advantages over Java that I could use in such a discussion?
I'm
a .NET developer but I have very small Java experience, so in many cases I cannot provide fair comparison.

Is there anyone here who switched from Java to .NET recently? If so, could you share your experience? Anyone who switched from .NET to Java? ;)

Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. And I'm mostly interested in
facts that cannot be freely interpreted depending of which platform you
prefer personally.

Regards,
D.