UML modelling tool in VS2k3 that's not Visio?

[Flip]

Is there a UML modelling tool/addin for VS2k3 that's not Visio? I am hoping
to be able to find something like Borland's Together Designer for Visual
Studio, but that is done in C#, not java! :>

Thanks.

[Charles Law]

You might like to look at Rational (IBM) Rose, and XDE. There is also
Enterprise Architect from Sparx Systems.

I started with Rose, but now use EA. The latter is much better priced, and
every bit as good (and probably better) than Rose.

HTH

Charles
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Is there a UML modelling tool/addin for VS2k3 that's not Visio? I am
hoping to be able to find something like Borland's Together Designer for
Visual Studio, but that is done in C#, not java! :>

Thanks.

[Flip]

> You might like to look at Rational (IBM) Rose, and XDE. There is also

Enterprise Architect from Sparx Systems.

Thanks for the info! :> I do believe the EA one is done in java though?
Any ideas?

[Charles Law]

I am not sure what you mean by "done" in Java. If you are referring to code
generation, then EA can generate C#, VB, VB.NET, C++, Delphi and Java.

HTH

Charles
"Flip" <[remove_me]ph******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You might like to look at Rational (IBM) Rose, and XDE. There is also
Enterprise Architect from Sparx Systems.

Thanks for the info! :> I do believe the EA one is done in java though?
Any ideas?

[Flip]

>I am not sure what you mean by "done" in Java. If you are referring to code
Sorry, I meant the tool itself being written in java. I'm trying to move
away from java entirely. I tried Borland's Together last night (written in
java IMHO) and on my 2Ghz box, I found it ran dreadfully slow! :< I mean
with that kind of box with 1GB of ram, I would expect it to be able to keep
up to Visual Studio, but it wasn't. Also, I would like to be able to just
move past "everything java." Maybe a difficult goal, but one I'm striving
for. :>

I do java during the day, and MAN is it frustrating. Just the reliability,
performance issues are kill'n me! :<

[Charles Law]

I don't know what it is written in; there's nothing particular that makes me
think that it is written in Java, but of course it might be.

With regard to speed, I haven't had any problems myself.

Charles
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I am not sure what you mean by "done" in Java. If you are referring to
code

Sorry, I meant the tool itself being written in java. I'm trying to move
away from java entirely. I tried Borland's Together last night (written
in java IMHO) and on my 2Ghz box, I found it ran dreadfully slow! :< I
mean with that kind of box with 1GB of ram, I would expect it to be able
to keep up to Visual Studio, but it wasn't. Also, I would like to be able
to just move past "everything java." Maybe a difficult goal, but one I'm
striving for. :>

I do java during the day, and MAN is it frustrating. Just the
reliability, performance issues are kill'n me! :<