What does this mean? (nested abstracts...)

[HAM]

One of my friends asked if the followings have any meanings?

'-------------
Public Interface IRenderable
Sub Render()
MustInherit Class Engine
MustOverride Sub TurnOn()
Interface IAutomatic
Sub Start()
End Interface
End Class
End Interface

Public Class RenderMan
Inherits IRenderable.Engine
Implements IRenderable, IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic

Public Sub Render() Implements IRenderable.Render
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Sub Start() Implements IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic.Start
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Overrides Sub TurnOn()
'Code for implementation
End Sub
End Class
'-------------

Does this all comply with the specification of OOP? Just curious...

[Brian Gideon]

It will not compile. Interfaces cannot declare types.

Brian

HAM wrote:

One of my friends asked if the followings have any meanings?

'-------------
Public Interface IRenderable
Sub Render()
MustInherit Class Engine
MustOverride Sub TurnOn()
Interface IAutomatic
Sub Start()
End Interface
End Class
End Interface

Public Class RenderMan
Inherits IRenderable.Engine
Implements IRenderable, IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic

Public Sub Render() Implements IRenderable.Render
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Sub Start() Implements IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic.Start
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Overrides Sub TurnOn()
'Code for implementation
End Sub
End Class
'-------------

Does this all comply with the specification of OOP? Just curious...

[Nick Malik [Microsoft]]

Your friend is being very colorful and creative.

However, the code below is not legal. It doesn't make much sense either.

Classes inherit interfaces.
By creating an interface that declares a class in it, what intent is the
programmer attempting to describe in the code? Is it the intent that the
object which implement the interface must "have a" member class completely
declared within them? Why not just define that a child class returns an
object of a particular type from a member method? The same structural
purpose would be served.

In this case, the Interface can simply refer to another interface for a
member method.

This allows you to have composition without the byzantine declaration syntax
below.

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"HAM" <hmdzxx5x@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
news:e3*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

One of my friends asked if the followings have any meanings?

'-------------
Public Interface IRenderable
Sub Render()
MustInherit Class Engine
MustOverride Sub TurnOn()
Interface IAutomatic
Sub Start()
End Interface
End Class
End Interface

Public Class RenderMan
Inherits IRenderable.Engine
Implements IRenderable, IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic

Public Sub Render() Implements IRenderable.Render
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Sub Start() Implements IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic.Start
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Overrides Sub TurnOn()
'Code for implementation
End Sub
End Class
'-------------

Does this all comply with the specification of OOP? Just curious...

[HAM]

"Nick Malik [Microsoft]" <ni*******@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Zu********************@comcast.com...

the code below is not legal. It doesn't make much sense either.
Well, any illegal code (except for logical bugs) must be trapped by the
compiler I guess...
Classes inherit interfaces.
By creating an interface that declares a class in it, what intent is the
programmer attempting to describe in the code?
I am not going to say that this is a good coding practice or not. However,
there is probably a way to know that If class "RenderMan" has inherited the
"Engine" Class of the IRenerable Interface through "IRenderable.Engine" , it
must also implement the IRenderable interface either. And why not declaring
the whole methods of "IRenderable" in the "Engine" class in the first place?
Probably because the "Render" method will be able to be implemented in
classes that "Also"
happen to have implemented from other interfaces, just one like
"IRenderable.Engine.Automatic"
....

object which implement the interface must "have a" member class completely
declared within them? Why not just define that a child class returns an
object of a particular type from a member method? The same structural
purpose would be served.
you're right....
In this case, the Interface can simply refer to another interface for a
member method.
that's a nice idea, just maybe the nested naming of Interfaces could help to
be more specific of where an interface come or sth.. I don't know!....Wow...
I'm messing up...
This allows you to have composition without the byzantine declaration
syntax below.

I 'll tell this to my friend.
Thanks for the help anyway

[HAM]

IT WILL! Try it for yourself in VS 2003....
(And probably it is better to look it up in the Object Browser...you'll see
that there is no type in "IRenderable")

(PS: Intellisense went wrong when i first entered the code into the text
editor. Then,
when i complied the class , everything went ok...)

"Brian Gideon" <br*********@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

It will not compile. Interfaces cannot declare types.

Brian

HAM wrote:

One of my friends asked if the followings have any meanings?

'-------------
Public Interface IRenderable
Sub Render()
MustInherit Class Engine
MustOverride Sub TurnOn()
Interface IAutomatic
Sub Start()
End Interface
End Class
End Interface

Public Class RenderMan
Inherits IRenderable.Engine
Implements IRenderable, IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic

Public Sub Render() Implements IRenderable.Render
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Sub Start() Implements IRenderable.Engine.IAutomatic.Start
'Code for implementation
End Sub

Public Overrides Sub TurnOn()
'Code for implementation
End Sub
End Class
'-------------

Does this all comply with the specification of OOP? Just curious...

[Brian Gideon]

You are correct. It does compile. I should be more careful about
assuming things about VB.NET based on my experiences with C#.
Actually, Engine is nested inside the interface. You can verify that
with ildasm. It is odd that it is legal in VB.NET, but not C#. It may
have been part of an effort to avoid making C# unnecessarily complex.

Brian

HAM wrote:

IT WILL! Try it for yourself in VS 2003....
(And probably it is better to look it up in the Object Browser...
you'll see that there is no type in "IRenderable")

(PS: Intellisense went wrong when i first entered the code into the
text editor. Then, when i complied the class , everything went
ok...)