Weblogic Workshop vs. VS.NET

[Among Thieves]

I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev IDE
from BEA, and I was blown away.

I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich interface,
the modularity...it is a stunning product.

Has anyone else compared the two?

I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a rip
off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs on
Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.

http://www.bea.com

[Bernie Yaeger]

Thanks for your objective appraisal. I've been in terrible fear of someone
overwhelming MS, and here it is! Wow - this should be the knockout blow!

Bernie Yaeger

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109463863.ab245716ea9a0aea5af3a7c14f17b88a@t eranews...

I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev IDE
from BEA, and I was blown away.

I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich
interface,
the modularity...it is a stunning product.

Has anyone else compared the two?

I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a rip
off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs on
Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.

http://www.bea.com

[Sylvain Lafontaine]

The development platform (IDE) might be free but when your clients will see
the price of the production platform, they will not only be blown away but
also be put into orbit.

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109463863.ab245716ea9a0aea5af3a7c14f17b88a@t eranews...

I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev IDE
from BEA, and I was blown away.

I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich
interface,
the modularity...it is a stunning product.

Has anyone else compared the two?

I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a rip
off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs on
Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.

http://www.bea.com

[Among Thieves]

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote:

The development platform (IDE) might be free but when your clients will
see the price of the production platform, they will not only be blown away
but also be put into orbit.
Not if you couple it with OSS such as Linux and mySql.

Then the price is miniscule compared to M$ lock in.

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109463863.ab245716ea9a0aea5af3a7c14f17b88a@t eranews...

I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev IDE
from BEA, and I was blown away.

I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich
interface,
the modularity...it is a stunning product.

Has anyone else compared the two?

I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a rip
off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs on
Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.

http://www.bea.com

[Among Thieves]

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote:

The development platform (IDE) might be free but when your clients will
see the price of the production platform, they will not only be blown away
but also be put into orbit.

BTW you're full of shit if you consider the Weblogic Express:

http://www.internetweek.com/allStori...icleID=8100173

"The lowest-price configuration of BEA's application server, WebLogic Server
8.1 Express Edition is available for $495 per CPU..."

So, for a quad system, it's a thrifty $2000 for a production ready web
application server.

[Sylvain Lafontaine]

First EJB and now MySQL.

How fast and big is your machine to be able to run these two turtles?

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109479062.e9720f4248442243207f87a281745452@t eranews...

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote:

The development platform (IDE) might be free but when your clients will
see the price of the production platform, they will not only be blown
away
but also be put into orbit.

Not if you couple it with OSS such as Linux and mySql.

Then the price is miniscule compared to M$ lock in.

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109463863.ab245716ea9a0aea5af3a7c14f17b88a@t eranews...

I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev IDE
from BEA, and I was blown away.

I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich
interface,
the modularity...it is a stunning product.

Has anyone else compared the two?

I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a
rip
off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs on
Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.

http://www.bea.com

[Bernie Yaeger]

Hi Sylvain,

Don't really waste your time with this. A T is a shill for BEA; Linux is
that kid who was learning things from Muhammed Ali and others; the kid later
died of SIDS. When they push their products here, they are assuming that we
are as gullible as the open source community in general, and they really
hope to get away with it. We will probably hear this for another year or
two; then someone will look around and realize that the development
community is still using VS and MS products about 98% of the time, and
they'll all become hackers trying to hurt the next OS.

I vividly remember a lively discussion of the Linux platform plundering the
development community. Imagine - Linux!

Bernie

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote in message news:OV*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

First EJB and now MySQL.

How fast and big is your machine to be able to run these two turtles?

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109479062.e9720f4248442243207f87a281745452@t eranews...

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote:

The development platform (IDE) might be free but when your clients will
see the price of the production platform, they will not only be blown
away
but also be put into orbit.

Not if you couple it with OSS such as Linux and mySql.

Then the price is miniscule compared to M$ lock in.

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109463863.ab245716ea9a0aea5af3a7c14f17b88a@t eranews...

I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev
IDE
from BEA, and I was blown away.

I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich
interface,
the modularity...it is a stunning product.

Has anyone else compared the two?

I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a
rip
off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs on
Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.

http://www.bea.com

[Sylvain Lafontaine]

Oh, I already know that. I was only trying to troll out a troll himself.

S. L.

"Bernie Yaeger" <be*****@cherwellinc.com> wrote in message
news:eG**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Hi Sylvain,

Don't really waste your time with this. A T is a shill for BEA; Linux is
that kid who was learning things from Muhammed Ali and others; the kid
later died of SIDS. When they push their products here, they are assuming
that we are as gullible as the open source community in general, and they
really hope to get away with it. We will probably hear this for another
year or two; then someone will look around and realize that the
development community is still using VS and MS products about 98% of the
time, and they'll all become hackers trying to hurt the next OS.

I vividly remember a lively discussion of the Linux platform plundering
the development community. Imagine - Linux!

Bernie

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote in message news:OV*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

First EJB and now MySQL.

How fast and big is your machine to be able to run these two turtles?

S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109479062.e9720f4248442243207f87a281745452@t eranews...

"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote:

The development platform (IDE) might be free but when your clients will
see the price of the production platform, they will not only be blown
away
but also be put into orbit.

Not if you couple it with OSS such as Linux and mySql.

Then the price is miniscule compared to M$ lock in.
S. L.

"Among Thieves" <ba**@baby.baby> wrote in message
news:1109463863.ab245716ea9a0aea5af3a7c14f17b88a@t eranews...
>
> I just attended a free 4 hour intro to Weblogic Workshop, a free dev
> IDE
> from BEA, and I was blown away.
>
> I don't see how VS.NET can compare at all to Workshop...the rich
> interface,
> the modularity...it is a stunning product.
>
> Has anyone else compared the two?
>
> I think Whidbey may be approaching what Workshop is ( probably just a
> rip
> off ) but Workshop is here right now, and it's cross platform ( runs
> on
> Linux, Windows or OSX ) and its /free/.
>
> http://www.bea.com
>
>

[Ted Dunning]

And Tomcat comes even cheaper.