Small apps, JVM, NET and such

[Andrei]

I have been developing small applications to speed up certain tasks. First I
have been using NetBeans(Java Sun) as my base language. Well the problem that
I have reached was that I was not able to distribute my apps (30 kb) to the
clients without the JVM(14mb). Trying to figure out how I could separate the
JVM into libraries that I actually require. Not successful even though I used
a bunch of different tools.

Overhearing some rumor that .Net libraries are distributed with Windows I
switched to J#. Can’t complain about the ease of coding in that IDE but my
problem still remains. I found out that my builds would not run on a box that
does not have the NET Framework (24mb).

Yes, it might seem funny now days when downloading 24 mb, yet think customers.
The program itself is 30kb but it needs another 30mb. Not quite efficient. I
heard about Salamander Linker (if I am not mistaken) but could not get a hold
of it yet.

I hope someone could enlighten me and direct to the right solution. I am
fairly new (young) so any tips/tricks are appreciated.

________________________________
University of Waterloo
Software Engineering
Seeking Co-op work term

[Dino Chiesa [Microsoft]]

Andrei, what you describe is an issue.
There are now 120 million machines with the .NET Framework installed.
Most new machines from OEMs ship with it.
Microsoft attempts to make it available on Windows Update and in other ways.

There is no avoiding the issue. Each install must check to see if .NET is
available, and if it is not, then direct the user to install the
pre-requisite. The install projects in Visual Studio can help you design
installers that do this.

-Dino
"Andrei" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I have been developing small applications to speed up certain tasks. First
I
have been using NetBeans(Java Sun) as my base language. Well the problem
that
I have reached was that I was not able to distribute my apps (30 kb) to
the
clients without the JVM(14mb). Trying to figure out how I could separate
the
JVM into libraries that I actually require. Not successful even though I
used
a bunch of different tools.

Overhearing some rumor that .Net libraries are distributed with Windows I
switched to J#. Can't complain about the ease of coding in that IDE but my
problem still remains. I found out that my builds would not run on a box
that
does not have the NET Framework (24mb).

Yes, it might seem funny now days when downloading 24 mb, yet think
customers.
The program itself is 30kb but it needs another 30mb. Not quite efficient.
I
heard about Salamander Linker (if I am not mistaken) but could not get a
hold
of it yet.

I hope someone could enlighten me and direct to the right solution. I am
fairly new (young) so any tips/tricks are appreciated.

________________________________
University of Waterloo
Software Engineering
Seeking Co-op work term

[Andrei]

I overheard that Install Shield would collect all the necessary libraries
into one installation file; however I did not try it out yet.
There was an option in C++ to compile the libraries into the executable. I
wonder if this feature is available in NET.
"Dino Chiesa [Microsoft]" wrote:

Andrei, what you describe is an issue.
There are now 120 million machines with the .NET Framework installed.
Most new machines from OEMs ship with it.
Microsoft attempts to make it available on Windows Update and in other ways.

There is no avoiding the issue. Each install must check to see if .NET is
available, and if it is not, then direct the user to install the
pre-requisite. The install projects in Visual Studio can help you design
installers that do this.

-Dino
"Andrei" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B5**********************************@microsof t.com...

I have been developing small applications to speed up certain tasks. First
I
have been using NetBeans(Java Sun) as my base language. Well the problem
that
I have reached was that I was not able to distribute my apps (30 kb) to
the
clients without the JVM(14mb). Trying to figure out how I could separate
the
JVM into libraries that I actually require. Not successful even though I
used
a bunch of different tools.

Overhearing some rumor that .Net libraries are distributed with Windows I
switched to J#. Can't complain about the ease of coding in that IDE but my
problem still remains. I found out that my builds would not run on a box
that
does not have the NET Framework (24mb).

Yes, it might seem funny now days when downloading 24 mb, yet think
customers.
The program itself is 30kb but it needs another 30mb. Not quite efficient.
I
heard about Salamander Linker (if I am not mistaken) but could not get a
hold
of it yet.

I hope someone could enlighten me and direct to the right solution. I am
fairly new (young) so any tips/tricks are appreciated.

________________________________
University of Waterloo
Software Engineering
Seeking Co-op work term