Visual Studio Trial - need input!

[Gary Morris]

Hello all,

I was considering ordering the 60 day trial of VS.NET,
then I saw the specs for install which stated a Pentium
II class machine @ 450 Mhz. I meet all of the other
requirements with ease, but mine is a PII-400, so I am
now wondering if this is just a recommendation, or if
the installer will check the processor speed and not
allow it if less than 450 Mhz. Does anyone know for
sure? I have tried Borland's C#Builder (a piece of junk
for the most part..) and it installed and ran on this
machine with no problems except the ones that it has
already, on ANY machine!

Sorry about the Borland bashing, but it's true. Anyway,
I would really like to have the chance to try VS without
having to fork over the big bucks, but at the same time
I don't see the purpose of spending $5 + $5 S&H if it is
not going to even install on this PII-400. What makes
me so paranoid is the time that I tried to install the
game Age of Mythology (? I think), and the install
aborted on finding that my video card did not match the
specs.

If anybody knows for sure, please let me know. I'm
really anxious to give it a try now.

[Erik Jensen]

I use the software on a P3 500, and though its not exactly
what you have or want to compare with I can say that if
the installer lets you do it the performance will be
adequate to evaluate the software.

Just a note: I've switched to using the VS.NET IDE for
all my development even HTML and all my text editing as
well.. Go for it

[Scott M.]

I wouldn't even consider putting VS.NET on a P2! The requirement I have
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...-us/vsintro7/h
tml/vxorivisualstudionetsystemrequirements.asp) says:

PC with a Pentium II-class processor, 450 MHz Recommended: Pentium
III-class, 600MHz1.

(1Performance has not been tuned for minimum system configuration.
Increasing your RAM above the recommended system configuration will increase
your performance, specifically when running multiple applications, working
with large projects, or doing enterprise-level development.)

I have VS.NET running on a Dell 8300 P4 2.0 GHz with a 200GB hard drive and
it runs well but still took 45 minutes to install!
"Gary Morris" <gm*******@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Hello all,

I was considering ordering the 60 day trial of VS.NET,
then I saw the specs for install which stated a Pentium
II class machine @ 450 Mhz. I meet all of the other
requirements with ease, but mine is a PII-400, so I am
now wondering if this is just a recommendation, or if
the installer will check the processor speed and not
allow it if less than 450 Mhz. Does anyone know for
sure? I have tried Borland's C#Builder (a piece of junk
for the most part..) and it installed and ran on this
machine with no problems except the ones that it has
already, on ANY machine!

Sorry about the Borland bashing, but it's true. Anyway,
I would really like to have the chance to try VS without
having to fork over the big bucks, but at the same time
I don't see the purpose of spending $5 + $5 S&H if it is
not going to even install on this PII-400. What makes
me so paranoid is the time that I tried to install the
game Age of Mythology (? I think), and the install
aborted on finding that my video card did not match the
specs.

If anybody knows for sure, please let me know. I'm
really anxious to give it a try now.

[Gary Morris]

Thanks to all for the input so far. I know I need to upgrade my
computer (badly), but right now it's all I have. It is a PII, 400 Mhz
processor, but I have 256M RAM with Win2000 pro, which works
pretty well for me. All I want to know is, if I order this, will it
install on this machine at all? If so, I'll get the chance to evaluate
it, and should I decide to buy it, I'll wait until I can get a newer
PC as well. I just want to hear from someone that it WILL install
on less than a 450, even if it IS slow as hell.

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:OU****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I wouldn't even consider putting VS.NET on a P2! The requirement I have
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...-us/vsintro7/h tml/vxorivisualstudionetsystemrequirements.asp) says:

PC with a Pentium II-class processor, 450 MHz Recommended: Pentium
III-class, 600MHz1.

(1Performance has not been tuned for minimum system configuration.
Increasing your RAM above the recommended system configuration will increase your performance, specifically when running multiple applications, working
with large projects, or doing enterprise-level development.)

I have VS.NET running on a Dell 8300 P4 2.0 GHz with a 200GB hard drive and it runs well but still took 45 minutes to install!

[Scott M.]

Sure, it will install. But it will be slow as hell.
"Gary Morris" <gm*******@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:O4**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Thanks to all for the input so far. I know I need to upgrade my
computer (badly), but right now it's all I have. It is a PII, 400 Mhz
processor, but I have 256M RAM with Win2000 pro, which works
pretty well for me. All I want to know is, if I order this, will it
install on this machine at all? If so, I'll get the chance to evaluate
it, and should I decide to buy it, I'll wait until I can get a newer
PC as well. I just want to hear from someone that it WILL install
on less than a 450, even if it IS slow as hell.

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:OU****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I wouldn't even consider putting VS.NET on a P2! The requirement I have

(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...-us/vsintro7/h

tml/vxorivisualstudionetsystemrequirements.asp) says:

PC with a Pentium II-class processor, 450 MHz Recommended: Pentium
III-class, 600MHz1.

(1Performance has not been tuned for minimum system configuration.
Increasing your RAM above the recommended system configuration will

increase

your performance, specifically when running multiple applications, working with large projects, or doing enterprise-level development.)

I have VS.NET running on a Dell 8300 P4 2.0 GHz with a 200GB hard drive

and

it runs well but still took 45 minutes to install!

[Ron Allen]

Gary,
I ran the early beta version and the 2002 release on a PII-400 Win2K
with 512 RAM and it worked although it was real slow in redrawing complex
forms. I can't check this again as that computer was converted last year to
a Linux development box. For a slow processor the more RAM the better. You
may find that your are swapping all the time with only 256M of RAM.

Ron Allen
"Gary Morris" <gm*******@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:O4**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Thanks to all for the input so far. I know I need to upgrade my
computer (badly), but right now it's all I have. It is a PII, 400 Mhz
processor, but I have 256M RAM with Win2000 pro, which works
pretty well for me. All I want to know is, if I order this, will it
install on this machine at all? If so, I'll get the chance to evaluate
it, and should I decide to buy it, I'll wait until I can get a newer
PC as well. I just want to hear from someone that it WILL install
on less than a 450, even if it IS slow as hell.

"Scott M." <s-***@BADSPAMsnet.net> wrote in message
news:OU****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I wouldn't even consider putting VS.NET on a P2! The requirement I have

(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...-us/vsintro7/h

tml/vxorivisualstudionetsystemrequirements.asp) says:

PC with a Pentium II-class processor, 450 MHz Recommended: Pentium
III-class, 600MHz1.

(1Performance has not been tuned for minimum system configuration.
Increasing your RAM above the recommended system configuration will

increase

your performance, specifically when running multiple applications, working with large projects, or doing enterprise-level development.)

I have VS.NET running on a Dell 8300 P4 2.0 GHz with a 200GB hard drive

and

it runs well but still took 45 minutes to install!

[Gary Morris]

OK, I'm gonna give it a try if you say it will install. I was hoping that
the specs were more a "recommendation" than anything, and even
if it is quite slow and RAM-gobbling, at least I'll have the chance to
work with it some before I make a decision to buy it. I've tried the
Borland C#Builder, and it eats a good bit of RAM itself, but I didn't
have any problems running it, even with good sized projects. I've also
used several large .NET applications, and they seem to be very RAM
intense, often swapping a lot and sometimes even crashing. Thanks
again for the input, I'm off to the msdn now...

"Ron Allen" <rallen@_nospam_src-us.com> wrote in message
news:OV**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

Gary,
I ran the early beta version and the 2002 release on a PII-400 Win2K
with 512 RAM and it worked although it was real slow in redrawing complex
forms. I can't check this again as that computer was converted last year to a Linux development box. For a slow processor the more RAM the better. You may find that your are swapping all the time with only 256M of RAM.

Ron Allen