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I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE program
in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another language would
be ok. Thanks for the assistance
Jul 21 '05 #1
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"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
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I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE program
in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another language
would be ok. Thanks for the assistance


Yes. Visual Studio programs (VB, C#, etc.) normally compile to a single
..EXE file. This file will only run on computers that have .NET Framework
installed, but it's a single .EXE file.
Jul 21 '05 #2

"Michael A. Covington" <lo**@ai.uga.ed u.for.address> wrote in message
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"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** @news.comindico .com.au...
I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE
program in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another
language would be ok. Thanks for the assistance


Yes. Visual Studio programs (VB, C#, etc.) normally compile to a single
.EXE file. This file will only run on computers that have .NET Framework
installed, but it's a single .EXE file.


Or, you can use Thinstall to wrap the exe and only the portions of the .Net
framework that it uses into a single executable that can be run on any
computer - with or without the .Net framework installed.

Jim Hubbard
Jul 21 '05 #3
Thank you very much Jim! Would you be able to give me some direction on how
to use this application to wrap my applications into working? Preferably I
would like to just release a single .EXE program simply because its such a
small program it doesn't warrant a whole 20 meg package to get it working.
Thank you so much fo ryour assistance
"Jim Hubbard" <re***@groups.p lease> wrote in message
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"Michael A. Covington" <lo**@ai.uga.ed u.for.address> wrote in message
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"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** @news.comindico .com.au...
I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE
program in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another
language would be ok. Thanks for the assistance


Yes. Visual Studio programs (VB, C#, etc.) normally compile to a single
.EXE file. This file will only run on computers that have .NET Framework
installed, but it's a single .EXE file.


Or, you can use Thinstall to wrap the exe and only the portions of the
.Net framework that it uses into a single executable that can be run on
any computer - with or without the .Net framework installed.

Jim Hubbard

Jul 21 '05 #4
J L
Hi Jim,
Have you used Thinstall? If so, how much did it cost? And what is your
opinion of it?

TIA,
John

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:11:54 -0500, "Jim Hubbard"
<re***@groups.p lease> wrote:

"Michael A. Covington" <lo**@ai.uga.ed u.for.address> wrote in message
news:Ox******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP12.phx.gbl.. .

"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** @news.comindico .com.au...
I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE
program in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another
language would be ok. Thanks for the assistance


Yes. Visual Studio programs (VB, C#, etc.) normally compile to a single
.EXE file. This file will only run on computers that have .NET Framework
installed, but it's a single .EXE file.


Or, you can use Thinstall to wrap the exe and only the portions of the .Net
framework that it uses into a single executable that can be run on any
computer - with or without the .Net framework installed.

Jim Hubbard


Jul 21 '05 #5

"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** @news.comindico .com.au...
Thank you very much Jim! Would you be able to give me some direction on
how to use this application to wrap my applications into working?
Preferably I would like to just release a single .EXE program simply
because its such a small program it doesn't warrant a whole 20 meg package
to get it working. Thank you so much fo ryour assistance
After you create your application, you run Thinstall and point it to your
exe. Thinstall then finds all related files and portions of the .Net
framework that your EXE needs and wraps the whole thing into a single EXE
that can be run without installation. This helps in a couple of ways....

First, you never have your application's files overwritten (i.e. DLL Hell).
Second, your users don't need administrative rights to run the application.
Third, your users don't need the .Net framework installed.

Thinstall even creates a virtual registry on-the-fly that your application
uses so that there are no changes to the users registry.

Of course Thinstall can be programmed to make permanent registry entries and
even to leave files on the users system (such as database files or image
files that your app may create). Thinstall also handles licensing for you.
It's really all up to you.

Thinstall is used by a huge host of companies (like Quickbooks), government
agencies and every branch of the armed forces.

I haven't talked to Jonathon Clark (President of Thinstall) in a few weeks.
The last time we talked, he had mentioned that they were working on a new
pricing scheme to be more flexible for small companies and large. So, I am
not sure what the pricing structure is right now.

Whatever it is, you can get an extra 5% off by mentioning jim__hubbard @
hotmail . com . Tell Jonathon I sent you. He's a great guy and his staff
are very helpful. www.thinstall.com

Hope this helps......


"Jim Hubbard" <re***@groups.p lease> wrote in message
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"Michael A. Covington" <lo**@ai.uga.ed u.for.address> wrote in message
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...

"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** @news.comindico .com.au...
I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE
program in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another
language would be ok. Thanks for the assistance

Yes. Visual Studio programs (VB, C#, etc.) normally compile to a single
.EXE file. This file will only run on computers that have .NET
Framework installed, but it's a single .EXE file.


Or, you can use Thinstall to wrap the exe and only the portions of the
.Net framework that it uses into a single executable that can be run on
any computer - with or without the .Net framework installed.

Jim Hubbard


Jul 21 '05 #6

"J L" <jo**@marymonte .com> wrote in message
news:ja******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Hi Jim,
Have you used Thinstall? If so, how much did it cost? And what is your
opinion of it?
The pricing structure has changed. You'd have to contact Thinstall
(www.thinstall.com) for current pricing. But, you can get an extra 5% off
if you mention code jim__hubbard @ hotmail . com (remove the sp@ces).

I definitely use it. It's great! No worries about distributing the .Net
framework.

Actually.....di stributing the .Net framework is more of a bandwidth thing
than a real problem. The problem comes in when the user tries to install
the .Net framework. Unless you are on a completely clean PC, installing the
..Net framework can be problematic. Then your customers are calling you for
support with a Microsoft product and that just sucks.

With the Thinstall EXE, all they have to do is double click it and they are
off and running (unless you configure Thinstall to handle licensing - in
which case they need to enter the appropriate keys to register the
software).

It is the coolest, (somewhat unknown) application out there for developers.

I wouldn't distribute .Net apps without it.

One more thing.......Net applications in a Thinstall EXE are safe against
ildasm (disassembling) and don't need obfuscators to keep your code
fromprying eyes. This is what originally sold me on Thinstall.

I wrote some about it a while back on my blog at
http://poderthis.blogspot.com/.

Hope this helps!

Jim Hubbard

TIA,
John

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:11:54 -0500, "Jim Hubbard"
<re***@groups.p lease> wrote:

"Michael A. Covington" <lo**@ai.uga.ed u.for.address> wrote in message
news:Ox****** ********@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..

"David Pendrey" <fa*******@dodo .com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** @news.comindico .com.au...
I was wondering if it is at all posible to write a stand alone .EXE
program in Visual Studio .NET. Hopefully in VB.NET but if not another
language would be ok. Thanks for the assistance

Yes. Visual Studio programs (VB, C#, etc.) normally compile to a single
.EXE file. This file will only run on computers that have .NET
Framework
installed, but it's a single .EXE file.


Or, you can use Thinstall to wrap the exe and only the portions of the
.Net
framework that it uses into a single executable that can be run on any
computer - with or without the .Net framework installed.

Jim Hubbard

Jul 21 '05 #7
Jim,
The problem comes in when the user tries to install the .Net framework.
Unless you are on a completely clean PC, installing the .Net framework can
be problematic. Then your customers are calling you for support with a
Microsoft product and that just sucks.

I can me not remember that I ever heard about what you wrote above in any
newsgroup I am active in..

Can you give some samples for situations where you have got those.

Cor
Jul 21 '05 #8
David,

What you ask now is endless asked times before in these newsgroups.

Be aware that the Net framework is in fact nothing more than a
servicepack/extension over the OS, what could be made by any vendor of
operating systems to let the programs made with the ILS language run and
provide with that extra's as by instance better memorymanagemen t.

A lot of us have had in past more than once problems with different runtimes
for more versions of a language.

That is gone with NET

When you want a real small program, than there is in Visual Studio Net the
C++ unmanaged code part for things as drivers etc.

I hope this helps,

Cor
Jul 21 '05 #9
Cor,

It is a shame that they did not think it was an important part of
programming. For large, complicated programs then a package distribution
such as that is the way to go, but for small programs (i.e. notepad) there
should be the option to compile a stand alone .EXE file. However I have
recently learnt of a 3rd party application ('Thinstall') which will perform
this task for you. Thanks for your help
"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
news:eq******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...
David,

What you ask now is endless asked times before in these newsgroups.

Be aware that the Net framework is in fact nothing more than a
servicepack/extension over the OS, what could be made by any vendor of
operating systems to let the programs made with the ILS language run and
provide with that extra's as by instance better memorymanagemen t.

A lot of us have had in past more than once problems with different
runtimes for more versions of a language.

That is gone with NET

When you want a real small program, than there is in Visual Studio Net the
C++ unmanaged code part for things as drivers etc.

I hope this helps,

Cor

Jul 21 '05 #10

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